GARS TOC page titles

tymsh · #1 10-28-2008, 09:12 AM

Hi vb seo team..first question

i am using GARS and gars's T.O.C (table of contents) extension for some categories at my site..

But there's a duplicate page title's problem when i use it...

For example ;

The main thread URL is :

Rusya ile Gürcistan Aras?nda Sava? Ç?kt? ! - BG Portal | Bilgi-E?lence

And there is GARS TOC page's URL's :

Rusya ile Gürcistan Aras?nda Sava? Ç?kt? ! - BG Portal | Bilgi-E?lence

Rusya ile Gürcistan Aras?nda Sava? Ç?kt? ! - BG Portal | Bilgi-E?lence

this all the url's pointing the same thread title...

So ..at google webmaster tools , it causes duplicate title problem...

Question ;

is it possible to rewrite this "gars2.html" "gars3.html" urls, which page titles and meta descripton , not the same original thread..Just the named as you see,as i defined ?

thanks..

briansol · #2 10-28-2008, 01:48 PM

i would change 2 things.

First,
convert

Code:

http://www.bendengecti.com/2007-2008/2952-rusya-ile-gurcistan-arasinda-savas-cikti-gars2.html

to

Code:

http://www.bendengecti.com/2007-2008/2952-rusya-ile-gurcistan-arasinda-savas-cikti/2.html   
or
http://www.bendengecti.com/2007-2008/2952-rusya-ile-gurcistan-arasinda-savas-cikti/page2.html

This keeps your hierarchy correct with the root article acting as "index.html" (but, not displaying at the end).
Then, the pages after it are 2.html and 3.html instead of un-nesting from the heirarchy.

Finally, I would add the page into the Title itself via a template edit and remove the board name/description.

<title> Rusya ile Gürcistan Arasında Savaş Çıktı ! - BG Portal | Bilgi-Eğlence</title>

becomes

<title> Rusya ile Gürcistan Arasında Savaş Çıktı</title>

and your pages become

<title> Rusya ile Gürcistan Arasında Savaş Çıktı - Page X</title>

tymsh · #3 10-28-2008, 03:59 PM

Thanks briansol...if i wrong,correct me please...

First ;

i am using auto VBSEO settings for my multipaged GARS articles...At vbseo panel this value defined as ;

Quote:

[forum_title]/[thread_id]-[thread_title]-gars[thread_page].html

Now , you recommended that it's better a custom value for this as ;

Quote:

[forum_title]/[thread_id]-[thread_title]-page[thread_page].html

or

Quote:

[forum_title]/[thread_id]-[thread_title]-[thread_page].html

in your opinion is it more effective ? or i get it wrong..

And second (the main problem )

Quote:

Finally, I would add the page into the Title itself via a template edit and remove the board name/description

Unfortunately, i have no chance to edited this via templates...There is only toc.php file ...
and my php knowledge not very well...

Here's that php file ...i think the solition in this file but i can't do..

PHP Code:

  if (!defined('VB_AREA') || !defined('DIR'))
{
 exit();
}
        global $threadinfo, $post, $thread, $vbphrase;
        if ($this->navigation)
        {
         if ($this->navigation['pagecount'] > 1)
         {
             if ($settings['allow_title'] && $this->data['custom1']['toc_title'])
             {
              $fptitle = htmlspecialchars_uni($this->data['custom1']['toc_title']);
             }
             else if ($settings['name'])
             {
              $fptitle = $settings['name'];
             }
             else if ($thread['title'])
             {
              $fptitle = $thread['title'];
             }
             else
             {
              $fptitle = $vbphrase['GARS_page1'];
             }
          $threadinfo['threadid'] = intval($threadinfo['threadid']);
          $this->navigation['pagecount'] = intval($this->navigation['pagecount']);
             $this->navigation['pages'][0]['text'] = $fptitle;
          $bits = "<tr><td><ul>";
             $bits.= "<li><div class=\"smallfont\"><a href=\"showthread.php?t=$threadinfo[threadid]#content_start\">";
             $bits.= $fptitle;
             $bits.="</a></div></li>";
             for($toc_x = 1; $toc_x < $this->navigation['pagecount']; $toc_x++)
             {
                      $this->navigation['pages'][$toc_x]['text'] = htmlspecialchars_uni(unhtmlspecialchars($this->navigation['pages'][$toc_x]['text']));
                 $bits .= "<li><div class=\"smallfont\"><a href=\"showthread.php?t=$threadinfo[threadid]&amp;garpg=" . ($toc_x + 1). "#content_start\">";
                 $bits .= $this->navigation['pages'][$toc_x]['text'] ? $this->navigation['pages'][$toc_x]['text'] : construct_phrase($vbphrase['GARS_pagex'],($toc_x + 1));
                 $bits .= "</a></div></li>";
             }
             $bits .= "</ul></td></tr>";
             $title = $vbphrase['GARS_contents'];
             eval('$output.="' . fetch_template('GARS_mod_container') . '";');
         }
     }
?>

i hope , i can tell the problem correctly..my english's not well..Sorry.

briansol · #4 10-28-2008, 04:49 PM

I would use this style:

Code:

[forum_title]/[thread_id]-[thread_title]/page[thread_page].html

or

Code:

[forum_title]/[thread_id]-[thread_title]/[thread_page].html

depending on if you want the word "page" in there or not.

Now, to be noted, is that this may conflict with your normal pagination or threads, so you very well may be REQUIRED to use a unique term (such as 'gars') in the rewrite.

so,

Code:

 [forum_title]/[thread_id]-[thread_title]/gars[thread_page].html

or another unique keyword instead of gars. (perhaps 'toc' or 'gpg')

For the titles:

I'm not too familiar with Gars, But, i think if you tack on the page if pagecount > 1 to the variable it should work.

find from the above block:

Code:

else
             {
              $fptitle = $vbphrase['GARS_page1'];
             }

add directly after:

Code:

if ($this->navigation['pagecount'] > 1)
{
$fptitle .= " - Page ". $this->navigation['pagecount'];
}

tymsh · #5 10-28-2008, 05:22 PM

PHP Code:

  if ($this->navigation['pagecount'] > 1)
{
$fptitle .= " - Page ". $this->navigation['pagecount'];
}

it doesnt work..

Also yes , as you say, it may create some normal pagination errors for my threads.. i'll look up my vbseo url settings and discover is this causes any problem or not..

exactly i think there is no important difference using it with unique parameter (gars/gpg etc..) or wihtout..

Thanks for all your helps,and suggestions briansol

briansol · #6 10-28-2008, 05:44 PM

try just this block without the If condition:

Code:

$fptitle .= " - Page ". $this->navigation['pagecount'];

so you end up with

Code:

else
             {
              $fptitle = $vbphrase['GARS_page1'];
             }
          $fptitle .= " - Page ". $this->navigation['pagecount'];

          $threadinfo['threadid'] = intval($threadinfo['threadid']);

tymsh · #7 10-28-2008, 06:10 PM

ok.. Here's a example too ..

[Haber] Hüseyin Üzmez tahliye oldu - BG Portal | Bilgi-E?lence

This is the main URL.

as you see, the main URL title and gars2.html title is different in TOC coloumn...

when i clicked gars2.html ;

i just want,the second title on the T.O.C coloumn be the title when clicked..

after i edited the code which you write, the only change is in T.O.C coloumn...it add's "Page 2" at main title as you see in first picture...There's no any effects on titles or etc..

briansol · #8 10-28-2008, 07:25 PM

hrm, you may have to go over to the GARs forum for help on this one. I don't know enough about it (as i personally don't use it).

I do notice that your URL's are still the old way though. Did you try changing them yet?

tymsh · #9 10-30-2008, 05:41 AM

what kind of change , sorry dont understand ?
i leave settings unchanged.

tymsh · #10 11-25-2008, 06:15 PM

ok i found a strange solution for this,when trying..for googlers i share it ;

at the top of SHOWTHREAD template find ;

Code:

<title>$thread[prefix_plain_html] $thread[title]

after,add ;

Code:

<if condition="$_REQUEST[garpg]>1"> $_REQUEST[garpg]</if>

it works for me..it adds an unique number (gars's multiply page's numbers), for all sections of main article to the page title.

Shadab · #11 11-26-2008, 02:21 AM

PHP Code:

  <if condition="$_REQUEST[garpg]>1"> $_REQUEST[garpg]</if>

Is it safe to use GPC variables directly in your vBulletin templates ?

tymsh · #12 11-26-2008, 07:12 AM

i dont know anything about this,exactly..
i know that vbulletin do not advice this as you say but unfortunately it's an obligation for me now...

ps: i also use similar code which is oleg advice for TAG pages.. ($_REQUEST[tag]) search for this at vbseo.com,you will see it.

Mert Gökçeimam · #13 11-26-2008, 08:50 AM

Actually you are worrying too much. Duplicate meta tags or duplicate title tags is just a warning and it will not effect your site rankings at all.

tymsh · #14 11-26-2008, 05:00 PM

mert, i dont want to see lots of,thousands of errors at my google webmaster account..actulaly i dont understand vbulletin's strategy for this discussion...yes, i know too it's not so many effective for google search results or seo rankings..There are so so so much criteria to specify a web page's google rank...but we must to accept that, title and description restoration is one of this criterias

i wonder is it so difficult to PUT some unique (or dynamic) words for titles or descriptions ? look at that :

*poll results pages
*social group pages
*album pages
*calendar pages
*thread tag pages

nobody can not say to me that pages are not important...as we all know, these parts of vbulletin is also helpful (important) to create,to desing new VB-based projcts.and as a vb customer i want to rewrited these all pages...it'a so normal situation.

in all pages i wrote above, meta description and keyword sections are SAME..(which we defined via admincp>vboptions ) it's strange for me..i cant understand why is this so :/

you know, in our country (Türkiye), people usually do not use calendar pages or social groups pages rather frequently...briefly, people use vbulletin systems as just "forum" ...

in my opinion VB is not just a forum site.must not just act as a forum..VB is very very improvable and good script..but when we use it fully performaced, we meet lots of SEO problems as title,description...or anything else.

i also use joomla one of my websites,and as somebody know we can define custom META's default EVEN an open source script.

also... time flows,google changing..

my personal thinking is, this year, google more importance valid XHTML and titles relevancy in comparison with old years.

so, certainly the most important thing is quailty for a web site...and sometimes, small things may create the difference i think

maybe you and VBSEO team add some additional features to vbseo plugin for next years about meta's and keywords.

regards.

briansol · #15 11-26-2008, 05:15 PM

They aren't errors, but rather 'warnings' to let you know it exists. There is no negative effect of it.

That said, I would not use a straight request var like that.
That's a huge cross-site scripting whole you just introduced.

ie, go to yoursite.com/garsforum/garsthread/?garpg=<script>alert("xss!");</script>

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