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I dont want to talk bad about anybody however even me and tons of other people put facts on table there is no way to proof to that guy about mod_rewrite is working. He hates vBSEO and noone knows why. I can just advise you not to take any of his advices serious.

About Static and Dynamic pages , of course static pages are way more effective because they prevent duplicate url's pointing to same adress. With default vBulletin there are tons of url's pointing to same adress : showthread.php?t=xxx showthread.php?p=cccc showthread.php?t=xxx$s=yyyyyyyy etc... Having duplicate urls pointing to same adress will hurt your rankings.

Tweaking vBSEO is pretty easy because everything is done from vBSEO Control Panel. Also if you ever need help on any kind of vBSEO settings you can open a Support Ticket or ask it on vBSEO forums and you'll receive help within very quick time.

Zoints Seo is a nice alternative but it cannot be compared with vBSEO. SEO is an important way and the most important thing on SEO is always keep your url settings. So i advise you to go with vBSEO if you really want a good SEO solution for your board. Installing first zoints and then moving to vBSEO will hurt your forum.

If you want to check vBSEO demo you can use http://www.vbseo.com/demo/

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Not sure if this is 'proof' per-se, but: vbulletin modifications - Google Search

My vBSEO'ed vBulletin site appears FIRST. Before both .com and .org.

Both Joey and Minstrel are publicly VERY opposed to vBSEO, and always have been.

Each to his own, but I would prefer to have an out-of-the-box solution (vBSEO) than pay someone (or invest my own time) to do it all manually.

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The other big problem that vBSEO corrects is the issue of duplicate content. Default vBulletin has many variations of URLs that point to the same content. Whether you use keyword-filled URLs or not (and some people configure vBSEO to use very basic, numeric URLs), vBSEO still has lots of other features that will help you with SEO.

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I do recommend vbseo as best product other then template tweaks (dynamic content always lacks behind static content) there are tons of advantages of using vbseo

a sideback having vbseo copyright + encrypted code :(

I think the real test is when you do a site:sitename.com search on google. Then you can see how far in the pages you can view before you get the dreaded "duplicate content hidden" message.

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Well let's just stick to facts here and not speculations and opinions. Let's see how far we get before we see this dreaded message on google for various sites. As you know, Google will let you see up to 1000 of the cached pages of a site. That is if you have 1000 non-duplicate content pages. Otherwise you get this message.

In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 10 already displayed.
If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included.

So let's look at the facts on vb-faq.

site:www.vbulletin-faq.com/forum/ - Google Search

1-10 of 18,000 pages cached in google. Unfortunately once you click page 2 you get the dreaded message. Bummer eh? I guess google see's almost all their vBulletin pages as dupes despite their expert SEO work.

How about vbseo.com?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...Awww.vbseo.com

1-10 of 14,200. I get to page 83 before the message. Much better it apears.

How about vBulletin Modder?

site:vbmodder.com - Google Search

1-10 of 2580

All 1000 pages viewable with no duplicate content message.

So it apears to me that vBSEO does a good job of cleaning up the duplicate content mess created by vBulletin. Facts are facts.

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Why pay 500 dollars to someone that can't even do the basics? Their site is full of duplicate content and Google has been getting more aggressive with their duplicate content filters lately.

This is why vBulletin is horrid out of the box for SEO: vBulletin SEO - The Ultimate Guide - vBulletin Zone

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Their ranking for the term vBulletin is largely due to its inclusion in their domain name. However, one thing they do very well is continue to create new content and actively generate linkbacks elsewhere on the Web.

All forum managers should strive to do so, that is, continually develop valuable new content and finding places to get it linked to on the Web.

However - vBSEO modifies the entire characteristics of your vBulletin installation in real time. After a 5 minute installation, all duplicate content or "paths to the same content" are eliminated, leaving you with the optimum scenario of:

• 1-url-per-resource
• link consistency and consensus

As Code Monkey indicated, you are much more likely to see Google refer to more of the pages it discovers on a vBSEO-enabled forum as unique and worthly of delivering traffic.

One other strong side effect is that vBSEO forums always result in higher PageRank through the forum from (1) forum home, to (2) forum display, to (3) thread pages.

With 1-url-per-resource, links to your site will be more consistent and PageRank leaks will be stopped.

PageRank of course, can help to boost your crawling priority. That is, the frequency and the depth of crawling per visit.

Removing duplication also has an important advantage that is often overlooked. If you have 500 unique pages and 10,000 different paths to get there, there is no easy way to direct the search engine crawlers on how to effectively crawl your site.

Rather than randomly select pages from the 10,000 different duplicate URLs, it can instead directly crawl and digest your unique content in a single sitting.

The result is faster indexing of your unique content, and reduced likelihood of having valuable content overlooked (not to mention bandwidth and server resource reduction saved from elimination of unnecessary crawling activity).

Remember - every search engine crawler has to sift through all of this superfluous content trying to find the few diamonds in the rough. Why force them to do all this unnecessary work, when you can give them precise sitemap with vBSEO?

Imagine how well they would do with vBSEO installed.

One of the tremendous benefits of vBSEO is that it provides instant SEO advantages at tiny fraction of the cost of typical SEO consulting services (compare with a base price of $500 for instance).

mod_rewrite is just the underlying technology that allows some of the the features of the total vBSEO solution to work. Many detractors tend to spend too much time focusing on old arguments regarding mod_rewrite.

Forgetting about the technology (mod_rewrite) for a moment, it's an unarguable fact that a more efficient, logical, hiearchical addressing structure for your forum will result in SEO advantages.

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robots.txt is basic seo. You use it to remove duplicate content from the search engines. Why have 100,000 pages indexed when only 20,000 are actual quality content? Why have printthread.php, showpost.php and the archive enabled? It's poor quality content. You will never get quality links to the archive, printthread.php or showpost.php. You will get quality links to your threads and that is why you want to make sure that is the only one that Google indexes. You also want to make sure they only use one url to link to that thread and not showthread.php?p=353465 and showthread.php?t=46457 when they both go to the same thread.

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