Terrorism and Transmission of Data

Hi all,

I'm interested in purchasing vbSEO however, a couple of areas are holding me back.

One of them is the

ACCEPTABLE USAGE POLICY:
You may NOT use the software on any website that contains the following information:

• info condoning or encouraging terrorism,

Can someone please define terrorism for me please. I would appreciate if Juan himself could answer this.

I run a website and forum that strongly condemns terrorism, whether it is carried out in Iraq, Palestine, Israel, Russia, US or UK.
However, what one mans fight against terror can be deemed as another mans fight for his freedom.

For example, take for instance the Palestine and Israeli crisis. One would say that stealing land from the Palestinians is terrorism, however, for those who are seeking the promised land they would say that it is within their biblical rights to take this land. So it can leave one pretty damn confused to what is terrorism.
Again, take the Iraq war, the actions by the US/UK govt can be seen from one angle as fighting against terrorism however, those in Iraq fighting against the occupation rule would classify themselves as freedom fighters who want an occupying force to leave their country.

I don't want to make this an essay on my ideas/beliefs on terrorism, yet my site/forum deals with these issues regularly and before I buy something like this I want to be 100% sure that after purchasing this product I don't get shafted or Juan contacts me and says that I have broken the licence policy.

I would also like to know how often vbSEO carries out the following actions

vBSEO™ reserves the right to include mechanisms for the detection of the vBSEO™ software piracy and/or general EULA violations. These mechanisms may include the transmission of data from your server to Crawlability Inc. servers that identify your unique vBSEO™ license key and forum URL information.

I don't want MY SERVER/FORUM to depend on your server for it's upkeep. I want to be sure that if your server goes down and I'm running vbSEO that if IT DOES want to transmit data then my forum does not slow down or get a 404 error msg.

Sorry for my long winded message, I hope to hear from your good selves soon.

With warmest regards,

Hanif

@Hanif:

Please PM me the URL for your forum.

Hi Hanif,

We are not in a position to provide our own definition of the concept of "terrorism". The link provided should provide a good guideline.

Whenever anyone is uncertain if their forum falls within the guidelines of our acceptable usage policy, they should submit the URL to a Crawlability team member (via PM) for review.

We will provide you with our decision prior to you completing your purchase transaction.

Re: Automated Registration

vBSEO customers will now be provided with their license key at the time of purchase. By adding it to your config_vbseo.php file, our automated registration system will be disabled.

Juan and Joe,

Thank for your replies, however, this still does not make it any easier, as the definition of terrrorism is again weak if not poor. Some of the definitions that the link provides show how difficult it is to meausure or judge what terrorism is. For example,one of the links cites it as:

"is defined by the US Department of Defense as "the unlawful use of -- or threatened use of -- force or violence against individuals or property to coerce or intimidate governments or societies, often to achieve political, religious, or ideological objectives."

I personally feel Juan that if I purchase this product then I dont want to be shafted. The strange thing about terrorism is that yesterdays freedom fighters i.e. people like Gerry Adams, Nelson Mandela, are now today's political heros.

Look forward to speaking soon.

Kind regards,
Hanif

Well Hanif, I don't think you need to be Einstein to find out if a certain forum supports terrorism or not. If your forum supports groups that *target* innocent civilians (like Al Qaeda and other Islamic fundamentalist groups), then it supports terrorism. Period.

Gerry Adams and Nelson Mandela were both terrorists in certain parts of their life, but that was a long long time ago and they've distanced themselves from it since. Should they be locked up for the rest of their lives? Certainly, but I don't think you can look at them now and say that they encourage the killing of innocent civilians.

Hi PageUp thanks for your reply,

My forum does not target innocent civilians, in fact its the opposite.
It's interesting that you mention Al Qaeeda and only Islamic Fundamentalist Groups.

How about those groups that are not Islamic? How do you address them?

In fact as I said before the whole notion of terrorism does not fit the bill, as people have different ideas/wishes to what consitutes killing innocent civilians.

History is littered with people who have been ruthless oppressors, politicians and leaders.

You can have the despots from the Middle East, you can have the policy makers as some would say who belong to the US govt, same goes for blood thirsty Europeans like Milosovich to sickos like Pol Pot and the Chilean dictator General Augusto Pinochet. Where does one draw the line in the sand?

And to lock up Mandela for what he did? Comical.

Kind regards,

Hanif

How about those groups that are not Islamic? How do you address them?

If they target innocent civilians to reach their goals, then the same: terrorists.

you can have the policy makers as some would say who belong to the US govt

Whoa, would you care to elaborate on this, buddy? When was the policy of the US to target innocent civilians? I'm sure with all the US foreign military activity, there were instances when an American did something horrible, but that doesn't make him a terrorist, but a criminal and it can't be associated with the official policy.

And before you ask, no, I'm not an American.

@All:

The vBSEO forums are not a place for political discussion. There are many forums where this conversation would be more appropriate.

@Hanif:

We received your forum URL via PM. We will review your site and let you know our decision.