Licensing Question

Hello,

I'm thinking of buynig vbSEO in a while.
But $150 is not just the money you put into a Community so easily.
So here are some Questions:

1. Will my license be lifetime? Or do I need to "renew" a license?
2. Since VB4 will have several SEO-Options itself, I'd like to know if vbSEO will even then, still be suitable and still be "worth" to put the money in.
3. Addon compatibility: How compatible is vbSEO with addons/plugins?

thanks

Hello ,

Once you purchase vBSEO , you can use forever. However your license will be expired after one year. In order to download new versions after one year , you need to renew your license. License renewal cost 35$

We are glad Jelsoft finally acknowledged the importance of SEO and implement SEO options to vBulletin , but we are a company who is focused on SEO . Jelsoft has tons of things on their hands and i dont expect them to create a perfectly SEO solution similar to vBSEO. Therefor i believe vBSEO will remain the best SEO solution for vBulletin.

vBSEO works with nearly all known Addons and plugins , but if you face any problem with any addon , you can always create a support ticket and request assitance

Glad to hear you are thinking of getting maxed out with vBSEO.

1. Your license is $149 for a lifetime license. Access to upgrades (after 1-year) are $35/year, which are optional but certainly recommended.

Some of our customers tell us, in retrospect, they would pay thousands for their vBSEO license. Of course, they say that after making a huge amount of money using vBSEO. However, here is a post that explains how easy it is to get your money worth from vBSEO. Organic search is the most cost effective method of search engine marketing possible, and why being successful at it is really the holy grail of SEM:

Comparing vBSEO Traffic's Big Advantages Versus Paid Traffic

I'm describing it as a comparison. To be honest, there really is no comparison. SEO will blow away paid for hits any day of the week.

2. The vB4 series will contain some basic rewriting options. vBSEO will still be one of the most valuable investments you can possibly make for the success of your forum. While we expect vB4 to create greater awareness of the importance of SEO, vBSEO is still going to be required for "link consensus" and long tail optimization.

Our team lives and breaths vBulletin SEO, so I'm happy to tell you that vBSEO 3.5 is going to be a lot more than just simply compatibility with the vB4 series. I think it's fair to say it will be our most dramatic change yet. vBSEO is going to continue to be your unrivaled professional SEO solution, and we will be constantly raising the bar and setting new standards. That's a promise.

We can't wait for the vB4 series release. We expect more users to get maxed out with vBSEO then, than ever before. Surprisingly enough there are literally thousands of forum admins out there who have not yet realized the incredible important and value of SEO.

Jelsoft's decision to include basic SEO features in vB4 opens the door for everyone to finally discover its vital importance. And the vBSEO Team will be here waiting to serve you all.

3. vBSEO has a non-intrusive design. With most plugins, we expect to be fully compatible with nothing further required. We also make available our Custom Rewrite Rules (i.e. also something going to be vastly improved in vBSEO 3.5), which lets you rewrite just about any 3rd party plugin you install! We also make available our vBSEO Extensibility API so that developers have options to build in native support for vBSEO as well. Of course, you can search our forums if you have any particular plugins in mind to see if there have been any reported conflicts. If you do run into anything unexpected, then of course, our vBSEO Total Support Team is ready and wating to help troubleshoot.

Thanks for the answers.
Sure, if you have a Community/Site with 10k or more unique users per day, a SEO will rise the amount you can earn vastly but if you need the vbSEO more for optimising than for just earning money it's another thing and then 150 + 35/year is quite much since I personally have to pay everything out of my own pocket

That I need to renew the license every year is a bit harsh for me personally and maybe a reason I won't buy, because vbulletin itself needs it's renewal too and that gets expensive for someone with not that much money.

But thanks for the answers.

You can always choose not to renew your license as it will not prevent you using vBSEO . Just a side note , if you have advertisement on your site , your add income will increase within time as more visitor will visit your site every other day.

Originally Posted by Mert Gökçeimam

You can always choose not to renew your license as it will not prevent you using vBSEO . Just a side note , if you have advertisement on your site , your add income will increase within time as more visitor will visit your site every other day.

That I am aware of, but we don't focus much on that, so the rise up of that will be absolutely minor. Also I don't want to buy a product, I can't update after some time. Since vbulletin updates as well, the addons have to update too and sooner or later I am forced to either uninstall or renew vbSEO and I can't buy something to just have it one year and then need to delete it, because it isn't compatible anymore.

It's true that an already established forum will more quickly see the results.

A forum just starting out naturally won't have much content to work with in the beginning. Yet vBSEO will be optimizing the forum right from the start, so that you can grow quicker.

I know sometimes when you are first launching and have to pay all the initial fees before even having any income, it might seem like a lot.

But the reality is that once you get running $35 is a trivial amount. I would caution forums that are not able to earn at least that much each year, then there must be serious issues and will probably require some major strategy changes to get it going.

Forums take work, but having vBSEO cover the SEO aspect ensures that your job of getting started and becoming successful is much easier than it would be without it.

Take some time to think it over. No worries though. vBSEO will still work for you if you decide to max out later. Our automated 301 redirects will direct any of the old format to the optimized vBSEO formats immediately upon installation.

You forget, that some people can't work, maybe due to diseases or other stuff and therefore don't have really money and need to really watch where to get some money for doing e.g. a Community.

Our Community is est. 2001 and reset in 2007 and runs quite fine with almost 20.000 members (not active though). But still the income from ads are absolutely minor and not even half or quarter from the costs of the server and stuff. Even the yearly renewal for vbulletin is a hard time for me

If I would have a 100% guarantee that I earn enough after installing I wouldn't care *laughing*
But jokes apart, I have to really think about it.

How about this. Send me you forum URL, and I'll give you some tips you can try before adding vBSEO that may help you.

I understand what you mean regarding money, especially in the current economic climate. I'm glad you're here with us asking questions and expressing your concerns. We know that vBSEO is going to deliver results for you, but there are certainly no guarantees on how fast that will happen for you, and we would never want anyone to spend money that is not available in their budget right now.

Let's start with some basic tips and see if you can see some improvement with that. We'll worry about vBSEO as step 2. You can check out the demo here if you would like or continue to check out the reviews. Perhaps you can find comparable forums to your own and get a better sense of what to expect.
http://www.vbseo.com/demo/

I am aware of what vbSEO does, thats the fact I am very interested
I already had to setup a VB incl. vbSEO about a year ago for a customer that time.

I'll pm you the URL of my Community.
thx until here already for the nice answers