Interested in vBSEO but...

Hi my name is Aizal and in internet world I am known as nyunyu..
I'm interested in vBSEO after reading much about successful story of people who use this script. I saw a post from Brian, one of many successful guy who implement vBSEO on his site..

Originally Posted by briansol

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Yes, that's me.

There's no "way" to do this. There's 1000's of methods to making money off the net, and i couldn't remotely possibly begin to describe them to you.

IMO, it all boils down to this:
To make money, you need ads. to get ad revenue, you need traffic. to get traffic, you need content. to get content you need members. to get members, you have to offer something unique that makes them want to sign up on your site over the other guy. to get that idea, is the key to success.

When i started by forum in 2001, there were 5 other major competitors on the market. honda-tech.com, superhonda.com, honda-acura.net, clubsi.com, and i don't remember the rest.
All of those offered general interest in hondas and while some hit on model-level interests, they didn't go after nor had organized, reliable information about engine swapping. At the time, it was just coming out. Very few kids had the money or knowledge to pull it off. I started doing research for my own swap, and put together everything i found, all in one organized reference section. As time went on, other people found this information useful.

Insert exponential function here

If you're looking to get rich overnight, throw in the towel now.

I remember the time when i got excited that i made $3 on one day.
when it broke $10, i tried to do a back flip and nearly killed myself
the first day it broke $20, i was ready to quit my job, and then realized that people below the poverty level make more than 20 bucks a day.

Even at 100/day, you're only at a modest 40k a year salary level.

Some people may say that's a lot of money, but the reality of it, is that is barely hitting the entry into middle class (at least where I'm from). You won't own a house on 40k a year living alone. you'll be forced to rent, and drive a POS car, not have many nice things, and probably live constantly paycheck to paycheck.

The true trick, is to get together a network of sites.

3 or 4 popular forums, a couple blogs, and some affiliate sites, and you're on your way to 200k a year

But, that requires a LOT of hard work, and a LOT of your time.
Working 100hrs a week for 200k VS 40 hours a week for 80k, it all comes down to the same time/$ ratio.

If you don't have time to enjoy your money, what's the point of even having it?

I work full-time on top of my personal endeavors to make ends meet. While I do get to enjoy some of the finer things, such as the car in this case, i'm still a FAR cry from being "rich". Even more so, there's a huge difference between being rich, and being wealthy.

it's not how much you make, its how much you spend. As always, things take time to grow, be it your assets, or your members on your forum.

Most importantly, money isn't everything. And i've learned this the hard way i'm afraid.

For those of you who have seen the Adam Sandler movie "Click", i'm a lot like this guy. I skiped so many family events to work on stuff, or overslept through something because i was up till 6am coding all night, or whatever.
Now that i'm older, i look back, and realize that I've missed out on a lot of things. simple things.... like my niece's 1st birthday that i showed up to 5 hours late, with no gift other than a check.
sure, cash is great, but its heartless, and the 1 yr old doesn't give a $hit about it. she'd much rather open up a nice toy of some sort, start hitting away on the buttons, making noises, and laughing and sharing the joy she can bring to the whole family. I've never been much of a family guy, always the 'outcast' of the family i guess you could say.... but now as i get older, i realize that even though i've been largely successful due to a lot of hard work, and make more than anyone else in my family even though i'm the youngest, i'm completely and entirely miserable. Sometimes i wish i was struggling so i would 'give a shit' about the little things in life that mean so much more. I have 2 1080p tv's in my place. My sister has a 19" tv that barely stays from flickering in and out of color.
She's happy, has a loving family, husband who works his ass off for 1/4 the pay to support them and their 2 beautiful little girls... barely having enough to put food on the table.
I'm miserable, completely alone, but i can watch all the tv i want, indulge in all the sushi and fine wine that i want..... but 99% of the time, I'm eating alone on the couch or at my desk while i work.

The old saying is very true. Money doesn't buy happiness.

Perhaps i've gotten quite a bit off topic... but I wanted to put this out there. It's great for everyone to work hard and have something to show for themselves. But it's another thing altogether to go out and actually live life.
Give back. Not only to your community and family, but to your self. By that, i mean give some money away to do something else besides work.

Excellent post may I say..
It's true, you don't really get to be rich in one night..You are still due to choose your life over your internet life while considering to get rich online..like me, my job requires me to be offshore on monthly basis, eg: 1month offshore, 1 month break onshore (im a hydrographic surveyor) So, for me to open up big board and dedicated my time fully to the board is completely impossible.

But seeing other successfully converted their site into cash give me the exciting chills. One question though, do you think vbSEO can help my site (anime site with a small members) get more members and generated profit upon installing it?

For now, my adsense earning not even close to $0.10 per day. Before purchasing the script, I would like to know what it can do to my site. Not looking to earn millions from the site, but a few bucks a day would be nice.

My Anime Community Site

Opinion are welcomed.

I recommend vBSEO + our sitemap for you. Right now you appear to only have about 13 pages indexed. vBSEO will help you change that.

However, since you do not have much indexing done right now, this is a great time to evaluate your forum. For instance, you can do some investigation about which are the best keywords to use in your forum names.

If you decide to use forum names in your vBSEO URL format, this will be very important.

Remember to keep adding new content, and trying to get links back to your forum whenever you can (from other *relevant* sites).

Also - since your niche is a visual one, you might want to work on adding more graphic elements to your template, icons sets, etc.

I would re-do your homepage. Rather than have boring stuff like rules and site notices, replace it with something cool that will catch the attention of your visitors immediately.

Maybe:

"The Anime Heist 1st Annual Official T-Shirt Contest - Submit Your Designs! The winner's drawing will be immortalized on our official t-shirt for one full year! Does your drawing kick a#*? Enter now."

While vBSEO will help bring you traffic, you need to prepare you site to convert visitors to members, keep them active, and keep them posting!

Thank you for the reply Joe,
Before purchasing, I have sign up for demo account.
Seems like it need to be familiarize first.
From the response, and from others feedback too, I am considering in buying the script soon. Bad luck for me to miss out the promotion.

Am I right to say that vBSEO is a script which can helps me gain more members or traffic to my site? And it is up to me to make use of the traffic to get revenue?

We focus on delivering traffic with vBSEO. However, our focus is on more relevant traffic.

So - we do expect more relevant traffic to result in higher member conversions and ad revenue.

Note: We also have an AdSense Targeting feature designed to help match your displayed ads with actual thread content better.

Thanks for quoting me


Some things to consider-

you are entering into possibly THE hardest niche. THE largest forum in the internet known is giaia or whatever it is, and is animie related. Odds are that you'll never break into 1/10 of 1% of their traffic.


will vbseo help you? sure.... but only if you got the content. What are you going to offer that giaia doesn't? If you're 'just another animie forum' you'll probably never do well.

I don't mean to discourage you, but in order ot make some money, you need to put in a lot of time developing new ideas, new content, and unique progams to get the visitors interested in your site over everyone else's.

I am aware of gaia website, they by far the largest anime community on the net and its hard to get on the same par with them. Nevertheless, my main focus is to provide my members with useful anime discussion, sharing etc. Also offering them free downloads unlike my competitor which require their members to pay to get into what so-called premium downloads.
Frankly, I am not looking much into getting my members to click on the ads as from my research, most internet users especially from my country (malaysia, sadly :( ) tend to install ads blocker. I am looking for a good traffic which can raise my chance to convert new members and make the community bigger.

content, I have some active members contributing their time to post some reviews on anime title, so when people read those, they will get the point of views from anime fan themself.

and also, the reason why I need more members is because I need to promote them about my real niche website which is useful to all.. free sms, no ads, no fees and works worldwide

It's good to have a big board admin to shed some light on me..perhaps I could refer to you when I have something I dont know..

Thanks

This is an interesting thread. I'm kind of in the same boat as nyunyu. I don't have a hope in hell of cracking the Google rankings; the topic is already covered six ways to Sunday by gigantic boards who are firmly and forever in the top 100. I don't have ads (or want them), and I don't want thousands of members.

I'd just like a steady stream of new people - say, five a month. What do I offer that none of the big boards do - an actual community, where everybody knows your name. That's about it. It was an accidental board in the first place (thrown together in a hurry when a big board suddenly went offline), but two years later everyone is still there.

So if I bought this software and the only thing it did for me is send a few new members our way every month, I'd be happy - but I'm not so sure that all the Googlosity in the world is going to do that, because being ranked 1000 isn't going to make much more of a difference than being ranked 10000.

So if you wouldn't mind, nyunyu, if you buy it I'd be very interested to know how it worked out for you regarding new members.

Cat,

vBSEO will optimize you on a thread by thread basis. While we don't perform miracles like instantly displacing your top 100 competitors, you will may start to get traffic from all kinds of different keywords from independent threads on your site. You should give it a try. Your goals are very modest, and I'm sure vBSEO can help you with that.

Ah, that's good to know. (I didn't mean to imply that it wasn't a good product, I'm just saying that Google rank won't help me much because I'll never catch up in that regard.)

honestly, you'd be surprised.

i started a home owner forum a couple months ago, because me and some friends from my car site were filtering the lounge there with house posts.

what started as a spinoff with 10 members, now has 43 members and 1000 posts.

but, i out rank all but 2 of the huge established homeowner forums on several queries, and the main one being 'home owner forums'

homemodders.com is me.

home owner forums - Google Search

#3 rank for a tiny board in a world of huge 2-million odd post forums.

Good to know - thanks!

I've pretty much decided to give it a try, as soon as I can work it into the budget.

Welcome aboard Cat. It looks like your forum is going to have a great 2008!

Seeing the inspirational post by briansol makes me decided to give vbseo a try.
I will place an order in a few days after christmas. Thanks for all the feedback from you experienced guys. Briansol, any tips on how to make a successful forums? Would greatly appreciated.

you already quoted it:

To make money, you need ads. to get ad revenue, you need traffic. to get traffic, you need content. to get content you need members. to get members, you have to offer something unique that makes them want to sign up on your site over the other guy. to get that idea, is the key to success.

get a unique idea, post like crazy about it, and keep going and going and don't give up. just when you're about to is when things blow up.

i was ready to sell my site for 5k in early 2006. Now, i make that a month