ForumCon 2012 | vBulletin 5

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ForumCon 2012 took place yesterday, and one of the biggest surprising to come out of the left field would be Mr. Juan Carlos' presence. I didn't expect a vBSEO staff member to arrive. And so!

To learn more about the event, head on to my thread at Admin Talk - Also, the headline of ForumCon was vB5, take a gander at the impressions and first pictures here.

I tried to help out one of Enthusify's websites improve their vBulletin 3/vBSEO integration - which is working against them rather than what they're trying to accomplish.

I see Juan!

Thanks again for the pictures Carlos

I think it is odd Juan was there too, considering the lack of respect he has shown to the vBSEO community and customers lately. A few big boards I know are considering disabling vBSEO is they stick with vBulletin because of this.

Originally Posted by BamaStangGuy

I think it is odd Juan was there too, considering the lack of respect he has shown to the vBSEO community and customers lately. A few big boards I know are considering disabling vBSEO is they stick with vBulletin because of this.

Actually, I've spoken to Juan and he seemed like a stand-up, and outgoing guy. He's very respectful to his customers and trying to help these customers solve problems.

For example, there was this one instance he talked in long length with - this website is a shopping website by nature. But this customer integrated vBulletin as a backend for customer feedback. Just one problem, this is too much for vBulletin [any version] by default. First of all, there isn't a native classified solution with vBulletin, so this is actually a plugin. We all know that plugins don't usually work with vBSEO, we've established that for years. vBSEO customers know this. But for this site, their expertise in coding and integration goes beyond what vBSEO set out to do, or even accomplish. Second of all, vBulletin is server intensive no matter how you slice it. If you put two and two together, you end up losing speed in exchange for usability.

When you have a thousand classifieds, which is what I witnessed in this site on iPad, and the engine between vBulletin and the end user, is something like vBSEO is reading from .htaccess, you end up making the server work twice as hard. So the server thinks it downloaded a lot of queries against what the user asked to load. vBSEO from the ACP side of things, I think it's greeat, but it's limited in what it can do. So I don't understand how the administrators of the shopping site expects this integration to go without a loading hitch. I witnessed that while there are a lot of users online - I think the decrease of traffic against the the amount of potential pageviews it gets has a ratio of 1:2. The pageviews may be high, but the amount of actual traffic you're getting is low - because your page load is low, Google determines your rank on a lot of things, and one of them is page load times. I'm actually surprised that the server didn't go offline, because when you're pushing too much traffic to a heavy amount of links [classifieds] you end up telling the server to look for this URL, and this URL, and this one. 1,000 of these slows down the server considerably. Because the htaccess is the one being read when it outputs to the reader. vBSEO is already in the ACP, so the engine is not really a problem here.

I had a lot to drink, so I couldn't really get to say all of this and look smart.

Originally Posted by Carlos SEO

Actually, I've spoken to Juan and he seemed like a stand-up, and outgoing guy. He's very respectful to his customers and trying to help these customers solve problems.

For example, there was this one instance he talked in long length with - this website is a shopping website by nature. But this customer integrated vBulletin as a backend for customer feedback. Just one problem, this is too much for vBulletin [any version] by default. First of all, there isn't a native classified solution with vBulletin, so this is actually a plugin. We all know that plugins don't usually work with vBSEO, we've established that for years. vBSEO customers know this. But for this site, their expertise in coding and integration goes beyond what vBSEO set out to do, or even accomplish. Second of all, vBulletin is server intensive no matter how you slice it. If you put two and two together, you end up losing speed in exchange for usability.

When you have a thousand classifieds, which is what I witnessed in this site on iPad, and the engine between vBulletin and the end user, is something like vBSEO is reading from .htaccess, you end up making the server work twice as hard. So the server thinks it downloaded a lot of queries against what the user asked to load. vBSEO from the ACP side of things, I think it's greeat, but it's limited in what it can do. So I don't understand how the administrators of the shopping site expects this integration to go without a loading hitch. I witnessed that while there are a lot of users online - I think the decrease of traffic against the the amount of potential pageviews it gets has a ratio of 1:2. The pageviews may be high, but the amount of actual traffic you're getting is low - because your page load is low, Google determines your rank on a lot of things, and one of them is page load times. I'm actually surprised that the server didn't go offline, because when you're pushing too much traffic to a heavy amount of links [classifieds] you end up telling the server to look for this URL, and this URL, and this one. 1,000 of these slows down the server considerably. Because the htaccess is the one being read when it outputs to the reader. vBSEO is already in the ACP, so the engine is not really a problem here.

I had a lot to drink, so I couldn't really get to say all of this and look smart.

Cool story and all but I have been here since vBSEO was looking for "testers" on vBulletin.org. None of what you just said matters if vBSEO isn't being developed. vBSEO is a disaster now a days and is slowly losing whatever respect it had with its 3.6.0 release. Maybe Juan should have skipped ForumCon and spent more time on vBSEO making actual customers feel better about his product?

Interesting.. Any body have an idea when will the ForumCon 2013 take place. Location and exact date please

Keep any eye on the forum, the mods or admin should update it.