this actually came up in an adwords ad when doing a site: search on my site for vbseo links.
looks like phpbb has a commercial seo engine now too.
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This is a discussion on phpbb has one now too within the Off-Topic & Chit Chat forums, part of the Focus on Members category; this actually came up in an adwords ad when doing a site: search on my site for vbseo links. looks ...
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phpbb has one now too
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Yeah.... I have to p**s my self laughing over this because of all those sid's in them forum URLs... HAHAHA
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Hey now, I didn't say it was any good
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Re: phpbb has one now too
lol you too?
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Re: phpbb has one now too
From Magic SEO homepage: "properly Session IDs handling (and automatic hiding when webcrawler is detected)" Originally Posted by rob 
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One of the biggest mistakes/misconceptions in SEO: applying URL changes for spiders only. Originally Posted by Freeezer From Magic SEO homepage: "properly Session IDs handling (and automatic hiding when webcrawler is detected)"
Scenario:
- A user visits www.abc.com and finds it to be a valuable (worth of linking) resource.
- User refers his friends via a link to www.abc.com?s=0987239857214
- www.abc.com misses-out big time on the opportunity to strengthen it's incoming link consensus.
Wonder why 'WikiPedia:consensus' ranks high for the search: "consensus"?? Because there is a consensus of links pointing to a unique URL.
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- 07-25-2006 09:51 PM #7
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ya, i seen that too ..lmao Originally Posted by rob Are you on Twitter? @BrandonSheley | Social Media blog
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You are wrong, because you dont know well Magic SEO yet. If the spider found backward link with SID on any web page, then is redirected to URL without SID through HTTP 301 Moved Permanently ;-) Originally Posted by Juan Muriente One of the biggest mistakes/misconceptions in SEO: applying URL changes for spiders only.
Scenario:
- A user visits www.abc.com and finds it to be a valuable (worth of linking) resource.
- User refers his friends via a link to www.abc.com?s=0987239857214
- www.abc.com misses-out big time on the opportunity to strengthen it's incoming link consensus.
Wonder why 'WikiPedia:consensus' ranks high for the search: "consensus"?? Because there is a consensus of links pointing to a unique URL.
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Simply ingenious - welcome to reality :-)Last edited by Freeezer; 07-26-2006 at 10:56 AM. Reason: Edited HTTP status code.
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403? ROFL.
so it sends them an Access Denied error message.
even better.
dude, give it up. you obviously work for or know the people that do work for the proudct.
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Sorry, HTTP 301 Moved Permanently of course. Post edited, thanks. Originally Posted by briansol
- 07-26-2006 11:22 AM #11
to bad the site his incredibly hard to navigate also ...lmao
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And that is illegal AFAIK, because showing something different to crawlers is cloaking. Originally Posted by Freeezer From Magic SEO homepage: "properly Session IDs handling (and automatic hiding when webcrawler is detected)"
I noticed layout problems in topics on the php forum in Mozilla btw.Last edited by dutchbb; 07-26-2006 at 04:13 PM.
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You are wrong. Cloaking is a term for different content for webcrawler and visitor. Removing SID has nothing to do with it (this was confirmed by Google some time ago - have you ever seen any Google Videos from GooglePlex? ;-) ). Originally Posted by dutchbb
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Well personally I don't trust it, if it's not mentioned here
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While I don't use or recommend Magic SEO (I've never even heard of it before), I do have to agree that the removal of the "sid" param won't matter to Google.
Heck, if that were a problem, then anyone that links to a site with Affiliate or Referrer parameters could result in the target site getting penalized.
Google, as mentioned on Google's own page regarding cloaking, is only concerned with actual misrepresentation of content. Additionally, if a url has the sid value, vs a url that doesn't have the sid value, and both display the same content, how is this cloaking in any form or fashion?
Google's entire point regarding cloaking, is to try to protect the user from being mislead by malicious websites or black hats. They want to be able to present legitimate data.
I'm the author of XCSEO Basic (a free, open-source SEO module for X-Cart), and it also reacts to Google, as it displays links with extra *embedded* parameters for users (such as -print-), while stripping out those extra params for Google (so -print- gets 301 redirected with that embedded param stripped out). The intention is to prevent SEs from indexing printable pages.
This solution has worked well for everyone that has used XCSEO Basic, it hasn't ever upset Google, and no users have *ever* reported their website having problems with Google due to this method.
BTW, doing this still isn't cloaking, as the page content is still the same (while the appearance is different, the same content still exists).
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