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    phpbb has one now too

    this actually came up in an adwords ad when doing a site: search on my site for vbseo links.

    looks like phpbb has a commercial seo engine now too.

    Index - Magic SEO URL for phpBB
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    Yeah.... I have to p**s my self laughing over this because of all those sid's in them forum URLs... HAHAHA
    Last edited by Joe Ward; 07-25-2006 at 04:33 PM.
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    Hey now, I didn't say it was any good

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob
    Yeah.... I have to piss my self laughing over this because of all those sid's in them forum URLs... HAHAHA
    lol you too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob View Post
    Yeah.... I have to piss my self laughing over this because of all those sid's in them forum URLs... HAHAHA
    From Magic SEO homepage: "properly Session IDs handling (and automatic hiding when webcrawler is detected)"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeezer View Post
    From Magic SEO homepage: "properly Session IDs handling (and automatic hiding when webcrawler is detected)"
    One of the biggest mistakes/misconceptions in SEO: applying URL changes for spiders only.

    Scenario:
    - A user visits www.abc.com and finds it to be a valuable (worth of linking) resource.
    - User refers his friends via a link to www.abc.com?s=0987239857214
    - www.abc.com misses-out big time on the opportunity to strengthen it's incoming link consensus.

    Wonder why 'WikiPedia:consensus' ranks high for the search: "consensus"?? Because there is a consensus of links pointing to a unique URL.

    Maximize link consensus, use vBSEO

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob View Post
    Yeah.... I have to p**s my self laughing over this because of all those sid's in them forum URLs... HAHAHA
    ya, i seen that too ..lmao
    My forums: General Forums | Admin Talk (running xenforo)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Muriente View Post
    One of the biggest mistakes/misconceptions in SEO: applying URL changes for spiders only.

    Scenario:
    - A user visits www.abc.com and finds it to be a valuable (worth of linking) resource.
    - User refers his friends via a link to www.abc.com?s=0987239857214
    - www.abc.com misses-out big time on the opportunity to strengthen it's incoming link consensus.

    Wonder why 'WikiPedia:consensus' ranks high for the search: "consensus"?? Because there is a consensus of links pointing to a unique URL.

    Maximize link consensus, use vBSEO
    You are wrong, because you dont know well Magic SEO yet. If the spider found backward link with SID on any web page, then is redirected to URL without SID through HTTP 301 Moved Permanently ;-)
    Simply ingenious - welcome to reality :-)
    Last edited by Freeezer; 07-26-2006 at 10:56 AM. Reason: Edited HTTP status code.

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    403? ROFL.

    so it sends them an Access Denied error message.

    even better.

    dude, give it up. you obviously work for or know the people that do work for the proudct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briansol View Post
    403? ROFL.
    Sorry, HTTP 301 Moved Permanently of course. Post edited, thanks.

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    to bad the site his incredibly hard to navigate also ...lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeezer View Post
    From Magic SEO homepage: "properly Session IDs handling (and automatic hiding when webcrawler is detected)"
    And that is illegal AFAIK, because showing something different to crawlers is cloaking.
    I noticed layout problems in topics on the php forum in Mozilla btw.
    Last edited by dutchbb; 07-26-2006 at 04:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dutchbb View Post
    And that is illegal AFAIK, because showing something different to SE is cloaking.
    You are wrong. Cloaking is a term for different content for webcrawler and visitor. Removing SID has nothing to do with it (this was confirmed by Google some time ago - have you ever seen any Google Videos from GooglePlex? ;-) ).

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    Well personally I don't trust it, if it's not mentioned here

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    While I don't use or recommend Magic SEO (I've never even heard of it before), I do have to agree that the removal of the "sid" param won't matter to Google.

    Heck, if that were a problem, then anyone that links to a site with Affiliate or Referrer parameters could result in the target site getting penalized.

    Google, as mentioned on Google's own page regarding cloaking, is only concerned with actual misrepresentation of content. Additionally, if a url has the sid value, vs a url that doesn't have the sid value, and both display the same content, how is this cloaking in any form or fashion?

    Google's entire point regarding cloaking, is to try to protect the user from being mislead by malicious websites or black hats. They want to be able to present legitimate data.

    I'm the author of XCSEO Basic (a free, open-source SEO module for X-Cart), and it also reacts to Google, as it displays links with extra *embedded* parameters for users (such as -print-), while stripping out those extra params for Google (so -print- gets 301 redirected with that embedded param stripped out). The intention is to prevent SEs from indexing printable pages.

    This solution has worked well for everyone that has used XCSEO Basic, it hasn't ever upset Google, and no users have *ever* reported their website having problems with Google due to this method.

    BTW, doing this still isn't cloaking, as the page content is still the same (while the appearance is different, the same content still exists).

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