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    Post Please Help Improve SEO Score and Other Issues.

    I am looking for your SEO Gurus to help improve my SEO score,
    and maybe help fix some other issues, and maybe even issues
    you can find that maybe I do not know about.

    I am not a website, forum, or SEO guru.

    So if you can help, please provide a full detailed report on what
    I need to do: how, where, what keywords, etc...

    One tool has given me this:


    Images:
    64 (Alt tags missing: 42)

    Are alt tags important? or worth fixing? If so, please explain to me
    in detail how to fix them.

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    SEO Lookup Source:

    Free Meta Tag Analyzer | HTML Meta Tags Help

    URL: http://www.wmforum.com

    SEO score shows 69/100

    I would like to get this score into the high 90's...or the highest
    that it can be gotten, so if you can help, then please provide a
    detailed report on how I can get this score to bump up, I am not
    good with keywords, so maybe you expert keyword junkies can
    help improve what needs to be improved.

    and if you continue to look at the report, you will find other
    issues as well, again, a detailed report on how to fix these
    other issues would be appreciated.

    Do you have other forum suggestions?

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    I have also noticed a backlink issue. I know i have been using this
    new domain for a few weeks, and see backlink building is very slow
    compared to the previous new domain...content is posted just about daily,
    I do not use scrape content, and I post unique articles just about weekly.

    by looking at this link checker, my backlinks appear to be holder at or around
    190, and this would be wired, because on my last new domain, I would see
    some increase every few days, but it has been 3 weeks, and hardly any increase.

    http://www.ongsono.com/check_backlin...in=wmforum.com

    This domain is also 10 years old, and when I purchased the domain, there
    were already a handful of indexed chineese sites, other then that, not much
    more then a few seo mods on the forum have been indexed...ideas?

    Thank-You

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    Alt tags are for images. It is an xhtml validation requirement. All images should at least have an empty alt="" in them, or other wise include a concise blurb about with the image represents.

    I don't know how someone can methodologically 'score' meta tags. I would ignore it as it's probably purely BS. keep your keywords and description concise and not spammy, and that's all you need to do. vBSEO replaces threads with a few words from the thread title and body on the fly. Besides, meta tags hardly hold any seo value any more. Few if any search engines are still 'meta crawlers'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Cummiskey View Post
    Alt tags are for images. It is an xhtml validation requirement. All images should at least have an empty alt="" in them, or other wise include a concise blurb about with the image represents.

    I don't know how someone can methodologically 'score' meta tags. I would ignore it as it's probably purely BS. keep your keywords and description concise and not spammy, and that's all you need to do. vBSEO replaces threads with a few words from the thread title and body on the fly. Besides, meta tags hardly hold any seo value any more. Few if any search engines are still 'meta crawlers'.
    It did not tell me where these alt problems were. What
    file should I look in so that I can add these alt tags.

    If you do not believe what scrub-the-web is saying, then you are calling them a liar,
    and they have been up for many years. I guess I am caught in the middle again, and
    this is where conflicts and disagreements start, so if you looked at the report,
    are you saying everything on the report is not true?

    I also think their score is based on how good or bad your tags are compared
    to how other SE see them as they appear, as they state this on their site:

    Acceptable does not mean search engine optimized.

    I am not saying they know your score based off seo wording, how
    would they know this, but a score based off any errors in your tags,
    is your title too long, is your description too long, other mismatch errors.

    after all, if you have incorrect tags, any tags? any mismatch to what
    search engines are looking for, will this not decrease your overall SEO?

    You also say it is impossible to score, but yet googie seems to do very well
    on how to determine related keywords, related content, spam, and so on...so why
    would it be so far fetched for a company to send a spider to a website and check
    the the same stuff that google and other search engines look for?

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    It can be in every one of your templates. You will need to manually find them. run your site through the validator.
    The W3C Markup Validation Service

    I'm calling no one anything.

    7 years ago, meta tags meant something. Today, they are basically useless for ranking. The descrition tag is used almost soley on the home page when it shows as a result, which is not common (threads are more commonly searched for via keyword searches).

    There is NO way for a program to read in words from EVERY niche on the net and see if they reflect what your site is about. It would require AI, which I'm sure they don't have a budget for. They probably look for a couple key things like length, quantity, etc but in the end, it doesn't mean a thing because they can be all non-related words.

    vBSEO once again has an automated provision for length in the CP.
    vbseocp.php#dyn_metas


    Anyone can build a tool and tell you anything you want to hear.

    I like this tool:
    WebPagetest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Cummiskey View Post
    It can be in every one of your templates. You will need to manually find them. run your site through the validator.
    The W3C Markup Validation Service

    I'm calling no one anything.

    7 years ago, meta tags meant something. Today, they are basically useless for ranking. The descrition tag is used almost soley on the home page when it shows as a result, which is not common (threads are more commonly searched for via keyword searches).

    There is NO way for a program to read in words from EVERY niche on the net and see if they reflect what your site is about. It would require AI, which I'm sure they don't have a budget for. They probably look for a couple key things like length, quantity, etc but in the end, it doesn't mean a thing because they can be all non-related words.

    vBSEO once again has an automated provision for length in the CP.
    vbseocp.php#dyn_metas


    Anyone can build a tool and tell you anything you want to hear.

    I like this tool:
    WebPagetest
    This is not really going in the direction I hoped for., so you are saying there are no
    improvements that I can do, other then to fix validation errors to fix alt img tags?

    I am not here to argue if meta tags are useless or not. I am here to argue what is useless,
    and what I can improve, even to help seo a bit more, score or no score...

    Site1: Title: The Best Money Making Site on the Planet

    Site2: Title: Crap, crap, crap, visit my crap site.

    So lets say google does not use meta/title, whatever...

    If you ran across these two sites, and you see the title, which would you likely choose?
    Would you choose the most desirable title, or the disfunctional title...and by choosing
    the more pleasing title, do you think this would not have some seo impact? After all,
    what impact is the other site going to have by using a title that may not look right, or
    even spammy? I also look at titles big time when I do searching, as I do not have
    time to click on every single website, and I am sure others search by titles also, and
    when a live visitor does a search and they see you have crappy looking title and meta...

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    No normal user is going to view->source your site to see what meta tags you are using. Thus, they will never see if you 'crap' injected them.

    The title tag is NOT a meta tag, so let's not confuse that. The title tag IS important and was never the object of this discussion.


    Some suggestions:

    [How to] Setup www.yourdomain.com or yourdomain.com (www vs. non-www) - With .htaccess 301 redirects - vBulletin SEO Forums
    and fix all your links. Half are with, and half are without within your own welcome headers/other links. Pick one, and unify on it.


    Remove the fuzzy seo mod. it's considered a black hat method

    Don't use both vb and vbseo's social bookmarks. pick one or the other.

    http://bizwebforum.com/linkus.php is in the sig of every post as a guest and it loads a failure of php issues. fix or kill

    http://validator.w3.org/check?verbos...wmforum.com%2F

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    Can you explain more about fuzzy seo? Why do you feel that it is black hat?

    What do you mean dont use both vb and vbseo's social bookmarks? pick one or the other...
    Since do not have either one of you guys book marked, I am not sure what you are saying.

    Link/Sig has been fixed, thanks for letting me know.

    I know about the site validation errors, this theme is in dispute since the
    coder did not feel it nesc to code the theme in a proper manner.

    As for the links half this, half that, I am supposed to have a 301 in place
    that takes the domain, no matter what, and sends to: http://www.wmforum.com
    I noticed when I clicked on the first link in the header, it did not do this, but
    seems to do this if you go too: http://wmforum.com - so not sure what that is about.

    Did you see my comments on where my domain is not getting backlinks compared to
    my other new domains? Since I do not know to much about Fuzzy SEO, do you think
    this could be the cause? on other domains, I have seen an increase every few days,
    and with wmforum.com it just does not seem to increase at all., and that concerns
    me more then anything that we have discussed above....

    I am certainlly not getting any more backlinks from what I can tell,
    if anything, I am slightly seeing less backlinks then before.

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    "fuzzy seo" is the term used to describe the "others found this site by these keywords" thing you have in the footer of the homepage. It's not a white hat technique. It's not what "I" feel... it's what it is. It's GREY at best. And short term gains are never worth being banned from google.

    bookmarks:
    any-place-report-scams-_1295587372026.png


    www's: You need to not only set your htaccess correctly (seems ok, as it does redirect) but also make sure your vboptions -> site url, and any template changes where you may have hard-coded your url are pointing at the correct place. It does make a big difference.
    see also:
    Brian's Tip of the Week #1 - Avoiding Unnecessary 301's - vBulletin SEO Forums


    Fuzzy seo has nothing to do with back links. It simply means others aren't linking to you. and that, 99% of the time, is content related, or they could not find you in a search/otherwise to link to you in the first place.

    While I'm not sure what your other niche sites are, the webmaster realm is HUGELY saturated and being a newcomer in that field is a tough feat. DP/SP/WHT and a few others are some of the largest forums on the net.

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    When someone says thats fact, then it normally means I would not have any issues finding
    what other people are saying, so far, I have only found one other spot saying fuzzy is blackhat,
    but that is far from proof. But if you take a natural forum url, and turn it into SEO URL, dont
    you think that is a form of grey hat? You are in fact changing the URL from an original url
    into a url that search engines will like more, so to give yourself more seo credit with SE's.

    Yes, I understand I need to take off old URLs, and point them to the current url.
    I just have not gotten around to it..they are scattered here and there, but will get to them.

    I was not trying to imply that fuzzy seo caused me not to progress, you are saying that fuzzy seo
    is black hat, so I am thinking, is google holding me back by not allowing the site to advance...I have
    read some places, you know you are banned when you see your backlinks dropping off, so I am not sure.

    I consider DP equivalent to low quality MCD with 1+ billion served. Just because they look like they
    are on top, well, I do not put much thought into their low quality, their popularity seems to have
    been falling for sometime now, and they have ban happy mods that ban on-site sometimes. I was
    banned for 6 months for talking to someone, then a day later, I was back to normal...but I am not
    really here to debate DP. I like doing what I do because I like it, not because of DP. I have money,
    so I am not here to compete, I like writing, and Chatting with others, and a few people have found
    me over the last month, so I am looking to improve, and will over-time, and if i pick up more
    members to chat with then great, if not, then fine, you are right, I really do not care for webmaster
    stuff anyway, it is just so 80's., and with the domain I have WMForum.com - I have had a few
    people ask me "What does WM Stand for?" and my domain does not seem to bring strong attention, maybe I should go with something like VIPMoneyMakersForum.com or
    VIPMoneyMakersClub.com - they seem to sound more promising then WMForum.com and
    at least people from india wont ask me what WM stands for; I can not believe people
    come to my forum then ask me what WM stands for...

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