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This is my personal opinion, while SEO is great and will help with SERPs I think taking away from "style" is very bad and keeps you from "branding" your forum.

Thus I think this style lacks, yet your trying to appeal to the SEO community so it works.

Just my .02

I much prefer a clean, simple, and most importantly fast style, over one that's busy and full of graphics.

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I read somewhere that its not a very good idea of showing forum name along with each thread title as it may hurt the keyword ranking for that thread. What is your take on this, T2Dman?

eg. Which one is a better SEO? Title showing:

Title: Ion or Zend? - vSEO Discussion Forums
Description: < 150 words, which contain thread title keywords twice or thrice >

or

Title: Ion or Zend?
Description: < 150 words, which contain thread title keywords twice or thrice >

Thanks.

Great thread. Learning a lot here.
I personally like the look and feel of this site it is really clean.
I also am impressed with your forum home. You really stripped out a lot of code and condensed it. That has to help with the search engines I'd think. Nice job.

I like the KISS method - Keep it simple st...

To me KISS means - having something that is relevant to users. So I mention the thread title, forum title, and possibly branding, in the <title></title>. I want something that is relevant and clickable. Ion or Zend means little. People may also likely to search for the topic, plus your branding. You might as well be top for that.

There are 70 characters that show on Google for the title, use as many as you can, make it as clickable as possible.

If the title is so important for rankings, it is likely that people will search for either the title of the thread, or the title of the thread related to the forum. For me this means they will search for a restaurant name in a city/suburb. ie Iguacu Restaurant Parnell. Iguacu Restaurant is the thread title, Parnell Restaurants is the forum its in!

Keyword ranking

• Title is important, I want as many relevant keywords in there as possible!
• More to the point - so few people actually have my firstwords concept on their sites. That is THE most important thing to have right. But in SEO, everything has to be right at the same time.

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Thanks T2Dman for ever so generous adivce. I really do appreciate it.

Ok, carrying on with the discussion, i have another cluster of questions...

1. Is there any formula you would suggest for implementing H1, H2, H3 tags in firstwords?

Like:

H1 for Thread Title
H2 for Thread Description
H3 do we need H3 at all?

For example, if you could have a look at the following page --> here, (also notice how i have tried to remove the clutter as suggested by you, i hope its more legible now. )

Without logging in, you would notice:

- In navbits, i have thread title in H1 (as suggested by you.)
- Thread description in No tags. (is there any need for any tag here)
- Then, i have google ads and then another description for encouraging members to register in again in H1. (???)
- Then again Thread Title in H2. (as is the common practice.)

2. Do you think SE will like it or not. Would this amounts to spamming?


3. Do you think order of these tags matters or not?

4. Can we use these tags more than once on a give one page?

Thats it for now.

Thanks & Best Regards
Aman

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How do I edit the <H> tags in the css file to make them look more normal?

Make your VBSeo Logo clickable....

I've lost count of the number I times I've tried to use it to get back to homepage.

Why not use the Navigation Bar?
And Rex_B use the following information to alter the CSS of the H1 tag:

Thats used on my forums to good effect, but of course make changes as however you desire

How do I change <h1> formatting in CSS?

Your layout is certainly looking less cluttered. Its a matter of listening hard, seeing what others do, trial and error...

Personally, I like to keep it simple. Complicated may work better, but simple is hard enough to get ones head and ones clients heads around:
So one h1 tag, and no other h tags

• In navbits, i have thread title in H1 (as suggested by you.) Sweet
• Thread description in No tags. (is there any need for any tag here No tag needed as it should be actual text for users, a heading is a heading and not information) Sweet
• Then, i have google ads Sweet
• and then another description for encouraging members to register in again in H1. (???) Dont have another h1 - we are saying to Google that we have an h1, and that the information after it is important. No need to complicate things, so just have non h formatting.
• Then again Thread Title in H2. (as is the common practice.) Again, dont complicate things. The following could be eliminated entirely, and the 0 replies, viewed 17 times could be added into the initial firstwords.

Are u a carrot, egg or coffee bean?
[This topic has 0 replies and viewed 17 times]

Again, simplicity - try to have the h tags in order, one h1, multiples of the others, each with different content, but as mentioned, no real need. I try and keep to the standard vbulletin templates as much as possible.

Hi Juan

You have made a few changes recently to the format of the forum, but I still do not see the title phrase included in the meta description as is needed in order to rank best, and look best in the SERP's.

Having parts of your header in h1 is a little confusing. The actual content of the forum or thread should be what is emphasised in the h1, rather than delegating the title of the forum to being in the h2/h3 etc.

Whats up???

On this page for example, the meta description is:
I'm still using the standard vBSEO replacement for this... I can use an RR that looks like this though:
One issue is that first post RR's are defined by number of words and not number of chars.

Any suggestions on how to create a phrase that includes the [thread_title] while still keeping the first_post_x_words? I like the first post x words idea as it changes with every page of the thread...

your thoughts

Yeah I know the H1 logo approach is old school - I use it mainly to make a statement about the vBSEO idea... On the other hand, I trust that google algos are advanced enough to devalue a recurring element (the H1 'SEO') that appears thoughout the site.

your thoughts

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meta description - preferrable/need the title repeated twice in sales text sounding phrase.

Where <!--VBSEO_PHRASE_1--> is equal to [first_post_15_words]

The idea is that you get the approx 150 characters in the first bit, then you have the interesting first post words for the remainder of the 150 characters, and of course the remainder of the firstpost words for the msn/yahoo snippet.

I prefer to try and keep things as simple as possible. Recurring means duplicate in my books, and Google not like that . Theming a page so that each page says what its about - thats my aim with onpage seo. And a page is not about vbseo, its about the topic of that page. Google is looking for signals of what the page is about, and it you have the h1 immediately followed by the firstwords/opening paragraph that you have, then google likes that. The h1 is an indication that the text immediately following is text for it to quote in its snippet if it is not using the meta description. Or when using the meta description, having the format shows Google that the page is actually about what it says it is. Its not to say that yours cant also work, but I prefer to keep things simple.

You have to then be careful that the meta description is not the same as the "firstwords". So see my forum for how I happen to do it there.