Keyword Relevancy Discussion

Ok I really need some guidance here from SEO people who know what they are talking about. I thought of an idea last week and I don't know if it's good or bad, and all of my staff are in favor of it, except the Operator/Coder.

Basically my site is Legion of Angels . net which you all know of as I've put it up many times in saying, look at this to see what i'm doing right or wrong. Legion of Angels for those who do not have the url.

Ok now my idea was in regards to my sites Keyword Relevancy. When I go to about us.org. That site that's like a wiki of websites it tells me my keyword relevancy is like 33%. Take a look plox:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../Relevancy.gif

Now here is my thoughts. My title relevancy or what not is low and so is my Description relevancy. I would really like to improve on both, just to be somewhat competitive and help SEO help me.

My idea was to change all of my staff members user titles and "titles" under there names in the blog system to Angel of "whatever", instead of my concepts titles for them, such as "The Wrath of God" for example. Instead of that it would be like Angel of Revenge for example.

Now my thought here is that it would increase relevancy of my site for the terms Angel or Angels most likely, and would work better with my Title Relevancy. But I did read today something about Keyword Stuffing, and I don't want to oversaturate my site with the word Angel if it's not beneficial to me.

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So in short I obviously need to change my Meta Description somewhere and I put that in another thread.

But in regards to my User Title on Forum and Blog Change, would that be beneficial to me or not? If not, is there any suggestions you have of which I can raise my relevancy in both Description and Title?

Thank You,

Legion of Angels

Title Relevancy: 100%
Description Relevancy: 75% relevant.
SEO Score: 79%


those are my stats, so yeah, your title is a little low.


The thing with your site, is that you 'branded' on a slogan. For all a robot (google) knows, you are a site about anything from American Legion baseball team called the Angels, or a run for Angel Soft toilet paper. It compares your title against your content. And realizes that you're about bible study, or whatever (i didn't read much )


meta tags are pretty much dead. There are very few metacrawlers left. neither google yahoo nor msn use them for indexing. The only thing in reality that meta tags are good for is what may show up as a description in the SE when someone searches and gets your ROOT .com, not a page.

Furthermore, the tool examined your homepage, which frankly isn't even a PART of your forum.... so why you're looking towards your forum to make changes to your homepage score is weird...


All that said, take these tools with a grain of salt. They run algorithms that some dude like you or me came up with, and they are far from a definitive source.

Ok here is the deal, the titles would change on the forum and therefore I'd change them in the blog also, which is on the main site page, and in the archive for the blog. That would change titles which are seen first on any page that is indexed. It would change 5000 or so titles on the forum based upon posts, but only like 200 on the main site and blog.

All I'm wondering is if things like Angel of Love or what not as titles of the people would increase my crawlability based upon relevancy for the issue of Angels or Angel of something???

I don't know the algorithisms of course, I cant even spell it, lol. But I'm just wondering if Google has guessed by now that it's a Christian or Bible Study type site, if using the title of Angel of blah would help my relevance more because of repeated use and consistency on many of my pages.

Or again, is that keyword stuffing and it won't help me at all?

If not, what can I do to get Google to realize that I'm not Angel Soft toilet paper or the Los Angeles Angels??

You could change staff titles without fear of keyword stuffing. I think it could help ensure that you could have the word angel on pages occurring with other related keywords. So it could help you to get more specific keyword searches that include "angel" along with 1 or more other terms that appear in your threads.

I think you should change the "wisdom" part on your homepage to be an introduction to what your site is all about (more clearly stated with keywords). Including actual text links to your forum and other "onsite" areas that are important and currently only linked from the embedded graphic links.

You can use LegionofAngels.net in your title if you want to brand on that, but add a better descriptive phrase following it. I'd also add a better meta description so that it can be pulled into the snippets for search engines.

Thank you both.

Yeah my mentality here is really a case of I just want to do the best I can with the knowledge that I can glean from others. Aside from that, I'd like to simply be able to compete, as of right now it feels as if SEO could run forever, but it's irrelevant as briansol kind of alluded to since or if I don't make more of a relevancy impact on that aspect of the SEO.

That is how I came up with the idea to change the titles, assuming it would incur more benefit from something related to my sites title, giving me relevancy points.

As far as links, we could add some hack, like latest posts on the forum, ONTO the front page. That is doable.

Yes the graphics we did stylize and send in 3 links to the forum and not to the corresponding articles below, as they have there own links.

The Wisdom thing is a blog title, adding Legion of Angels to each entry would get redundant. We can add some text to the box though or title the whole blog with LoA at the top of the box, I dunno.

I guess I'll buy Aaron Wall's book, but I wish I knew more about all this SEO stuff, my coder and I feel very much in the dark about how to improve to allow SEO to actually have an impact.

Aaron's book has a lot of information. And, I think every webmaster not already well versed in SEO/SEM can benefit from reading it. But block out a couple of weeks to digest it all.

To add to this discussion my Coder's main objection is that he thought that SEO helps us more with a variety of words, rather than a consistency of them.

In our example he's saying that instead of changing titles to Angel of Something, the variety and uniqueness of the current titles is more advantageous.

So which way is the better way, consistent keywords, or variety of different possible keywords?

Originally Posted by legionofangels

So which way is the better way, consistent keywords, or variety of different possible keywords?

Just curious if anyone can answer this question.

Thanks

Hello? Can I get my question answered please? Or is it an unknown?

NVM, I give up.

I believe you were talking about "staff titles", as opposed to "thread titles". A couple of points:

#1 - You will definitely do better with vBSEO with a large variety of *user generated keywords*, provided this group of keywords is targeted to your niche. So, "a large amount of different keywords for a particular niche is good".

With vBSEO we optimize on a thread by thread basis, pulling in traffic from thousands of different keyword phrases that occur naturally on your forum from user generated content.

#2 - But, repetition is going to occur naturally within your niche, and that's ok. People do not simply discuss a particular topic one time, and then never address the topic again. A natural site will definitely have repetition of key terms. So, don't be afraid to add something like "angel" into your staff titles.

To have very minimal repetition (or none) would be unnatural and a little suspicious to search engine bots that could confuse them with software generated spam pages.

Now, with that said, I don't recommend having your site name within the title tag for all of your thread pages. I personally believe (in most cases) it is better to just let the thread title be placed in the title tag by itself to prevent excessive repetition of site name keywords, which leads to watering down the keyword relevancy of every thread page title.