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Google Menopause or Andropause Mania?

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    Arrow Google Menopause or Andropause Mania?

    The past 5 years have been a pleseant experience with Google and search engines. Google getting purposely "kind of" unpredictable from time to time, for their own CIA secrecy intentions. But good...

    3 of my online biz dropped from top #1 and top 5 positions on Google SERPs from three of my money making information sites. The short story, all these sites have about 2,000 optimized articles combined, nicely structured keyword density both in titles, body text and author resource box on important article directories.

    - No more than 3 optimized articles submited per day in article services for major directory distribution
    - Every targeted keyword has been successfully placed on every article titles, body and author resource box
    - None of the sites are banned from Google SERPs, INDEX or have had page rank siginificant drop (I was expecting small PR drop)
    - High competition in every sub-niche
    - Problem: I had linkdash.com unconciously left in my early website start up (just to acquire fast keyword indexing) however, left such linkfarm in the three sites.

    I digged and surprisingly I still had such linkfarm and did removed those sites since the evident timeframe of 3-7 days passed to get my listings back to top positions. 3-7 days as that it was usually took to have my rankings back in the past 4 heavy drops Google did in 2007 for few of my websites.

    What is interesting to note, are two things.

    Did Google dropped me for perceived highly targeted article marketing optimized lessons to have it define by some seo educated guys as (should I say= content spamming) or because of the link farm Still in many of my friends mind, it isn't content spamming.

    My buddies answers: Your competitors probably reported you.

    Sorry for the long case study here, find quite a few SEO minds interesting enough to spend the time writing this.

    Hope to say "Viva Puerto Rico" in a few days...c'mon Google!
    Last edited by Joaquin; 03-27-2008 at 02:12 AM. Reason: bolding the point of answer

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    Why do you feel what you were doing could be considered "content spamming"?

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    "Content Spamming" I Just Can't Say Keyword Spamming...

    Hey Joe,

    Believing my sites and sub-pages are all indexed without hence, getting any of my outbound links that point to my sites deleted. I eliminated the possibility of being "penalized" beause of one linkdash.php directory still in a sub-page.

    So I had to 'technically' conclude by my own tested facts and experience situations in other marketers that this Google behavior could only be "Content Spamming" as I submitted articles from three major article directory services and purchased one way links continously with the same keyword(often every week and just adding another important word into the keyword to eliminate the 100% density in keyword being targeted every time) in sites seomoz.org believed where of high page strengh (5 or more).

    What I often did was article marketing, the cheap and basic solution to SE. The keywords being targeted where always added in article titles, body and resource box.

    So technically, I don't believe keyword spamming could be called in the eyes of Google as what I did often is what they what us to feed them, with food. Interesting, instructional and valuable 500-600 word content.

    I summarize this conclusions in 2 minutes in the phone, now look at this paragraphs seo jungle Wonder what few of you guys have to opinion about the specific situation, leaving emotion...it always adds to case studies...


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    Summary:

    • You have 3 sites, doing well for the past 5 years.
    • Recently, they lost position for keywords you were ranking #1 with.
    • Your sites are filled with articles, and you submit them to articles sites to build links.
    • You also buy inbound links, and include varied anchor text, but always keep 1 target term in all variations.

    Your question is whether submitting articles has you flagged as some kind of "content spammer".

    Question:
    Were all of your articles original, or copied from somewhere else?

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    Your question is whether submitting articles has you flagged as some kind of "content spammer".

    Question:
    Were all of your articles original, or copied from somewhere else?
    Thanks for sharing that point of view Joe. Yes, all my articles are original. Double checking every article and having the content edited to my style has been my in-house priority.

    It's no longer about knowing how it works, but understanding Google behavior a bit more for the long term benefit.

    Let me know what you think neighboor

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    I think the link buying and anchor text style is the highest probably explanation for your ranking decline.

    How has this impacted your total traffic?

    How many different keywords do you get traffic from?

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    I though of anchor text style, to much agressiveness. Partial issue being, content that isn't very optimized for link acquisition from other websites to mine have not suffered traffic decrease or SERP getting downgraded.

    How has this impacted your total traffic?

    How many different keywords do you get traffic from?
    I was enjoying a lot of comfort with around 40+ keywords in top 3 positions of Google and around 60+ keyword count in top 10 in Google alone as of this early morning remembering count.

    Guess its a beginning and an end. Either way, I should still be fine but man do I have to keep working on traffic funnels alternatives.

    Just imagine.

    Thanks for the feedback mate.

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    No menapause or andropause...

    Thanks Joe.
    Last edited by Joaquin; 06-25-2009 at 03:52 PM.

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