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Do you think my Mustang site will benefit from the Pingback feature?

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    Do you think my Mustang site will benefit from the Pingback feature?

    I am thinking it won't do me much good. I am thinking of disabling it for my Mustang websites... 1) tired of explaining what it is 2) it is just another thing down there to take up space along with the similiar threads, whos browsing and navbar 3) I rarely get linked to via blogs...

    So what do you think?

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    Hi!!

    As a board owner, you make a very interesting point on behalf of your members, but I feel the comments air more on the side of member negligence.... ie. they don't know what it is.

    How many of your members own a blog? I'll bet that some do!

    Do a search on google for mustang blog mustang blog - Google Search

    Thats not to shabby a number of results.

    It's up to us as webmasters to explain the benefits and the in's and outs of trackbacks and pings to our members and I think it's high time someone wrote an FAQ set for us all to add to our boards. This will go a long way toward educating the masses. Once educated then this feature will prove a very very worthy addition to any board... although I must admit, certain industry sectors will make more use of it that others (tech, for instance)

    I dont think 'my users dont know what it is' is a suitable reason because like most people, when I get sick of explaining something I add an FAQ item! See my web design forums for FAQ items on the revenue sharing.... or see my football forums for FAQ items on the virtual bookie and the PointShop!

    Let's not forget, this feature is two way.... you can chat about things you come across on mustang blogs and gain content relevant links in the process..... whats shabby about that?
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    Don't forget that the functionality within vBSEO trackbacks and pingbacks are not only interlinking blogs and forums together for the first time, but also ensuring that two different forums can exchange links regarding content of interest. Whilst the feature may appear a little ambigious to the majority of the less experienced end-users, the theory and implementation of sending a trackback is painstakingly easy.

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    Ah yes.... I forgot to mention other vBulletin forums.
    I have to get into the new way of thinking.... vBulletin has entered the blogosphere
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    No, vBulletin has not entered the blogosphere, vBSEO has created the forumsphere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael
    No, vBulletin has not entered the blogosphere, vBSEO has created the forumsphere
    OH WOW, that sounds like a big accomplishment!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Muriente
    OH WOW, that sounds like a big accomplishment!!
    No pressure I wouldn't be surprised if the leading feature of vBulletin 4.0 was the "ultra-unique-original" Pingback and Trackback feature

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    ...someone wrote an FAQ set for us all to add to our boards. This will go a long way toward educating the masses.
    This content is being refined to suit a wider audience: techs, non-techs, etc.
    1) tired of explaining what it is
    I think the newer FAQ page will help a lot with this...
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    I wouldn't be surprised if the leading feature of vBulletin 4.0 was the "ultra-unique-original" Pingback and Trackback feature
    That's too unorthodox for Jelsoft kidding!! - If they implement it, well... there's an "off" switch for ping/trackbacks in the cp
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    Pingbacks and trackbacks still a new concept

    I am real new to pingbacks and trackbacks. I did not know how they worked till vbseo created the vbulletin version of them. I have had my head stuck in vbulletin and have not ventured outside that much.

    My point - there will be many like me.

    There will definately be a learning curve for people. As more people get vbseo on their forums, more people will be cross linking forums with it. People with blogs will quote forum entries, and so have pings.

    Why are blogs good for seo?

    Matt Cutts has said a number of times that blogs are good. Why? What is so good about blogs? There is nothing special about a blog per sae, its the technology that is what is good. The tracking/pingback feature is one thing. The community building is another. Many people have personal blogs and have a following of friends that have blogs. With them all linking to each other, you get heaps of links, and links are what any site has to have in order to rank well.

    With myspace and flickr sites also getting big, linking to other peoples sites is becoming more common.

    Links links links

    After vseo and onpage optimization tweaks, links are the missing factor. A PR1 forum with thousands of threads will not get all those pages spidered quickly, nor will those pages once spidered necessarily be included in the index. Without links, the best onpage and vbseo'ed forum will not rank well on Google.

    So the trackbacks etc will be an important growing part of getting inbound links and making the forums grow. An important part of community building.

    What vbseo has done with the the replacing url's with the title of that page it is linking to - not much benefit to the page that is linking out, but lots of benefit to the page receiving it. Why be good to others??? Because what goes around comes around. Create useful unique content, and see others linking to you via the same trackacks/pingbacks.

    I would rather embrace the new technology, and see it get used only a small amount, than miss out on that small amount, and miss out on the potential large amount that could happen.

    All it needs is one high PR inbound link and that could be enough to get your page ranked top for a phrase. Thats got to be worth something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob
    I think it's high time someone wrote an FAQ set for us all to add to our boards.
    i 2nd

    ya, your right, I'm going to use it to explain to myself..lol

    I am getting closer, I'm setting a new blog up for my wife and this blog has the ping and trackback stuff too
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    If you click the questionmark down there beside Ping/Trackabacks, it has an explanation, and I think Juan mentioned the next release will have an even better explanation.

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    As usual T2DMan you speak alot of sense And you bring up a very good point about how pingbacks and trackbacks although widely expected in all basic blogging systems for many years, are reletively unknown within forum communities. This is something which hopefully vBSEO can help pioneer, although with the current restrictions in place for commercial modifications on vBulletin.org it does it a lot more difficult to reach a products target audience effectively without having a thread closed down, or a flame war starting about the (now cliched) benefits of running vBSEO over a default vBulletin URL installation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T2DMan
    Pingbacks and trackbacks still a new concept

    I am real new to pingbacks and trackbacks. I did not know how they worked till vbseo created the vbulletin version of them. I have had my head stuck in vbulletin and have not....
    ...
    ...
    I tell ya, its such a shame the rep system aint on.... I would have to click it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael
    ....although with the current restrictions in place for commercial modifications on vBulletin.org it does it a lot more difficult to reach a products target audience effectively without having a thread closed down, or a flame war starting about the (now cliched) benefits of running vBSEO over a default vBulletin URL installation.
    Good!!

    Let's keep all the rankings to ourselves...

    SSSSssshhhh!!
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