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Old 07-31-2007, 04:55 PM
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Hi

Do you have a vBulletin Forum?
Do you have hacks installed? Templates edited?
How long does it take you to update your forum?

I for myself have installed around 30 products, and have around 300 different template edits.

For me, a vBulletin Forum upgrade takes usually 5-15mins

HOW do you ask?

In the german vBulletin modder szene Andreas (formaly known as KirbyDE) and now part of the vBulletin Team has released a modification called:

Template Modification System or TMS


It was a beta so it was only available in german.
But now it has reached gold status and is available on vB.org in english.

This hack is THE most important feature since the introduction of plugins.

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This modification allows easy management of template modifications.
Hack authors can define the necessary template modifications for their products.
When exporting a product, all template modifications assigned to this product
in MASTER style will be embedded into the product XML and imported on the
end-user vBuleltin installation automatically if TMS is available.
Alternatively, it is also possible to create separate XML files for template modifications.
This way, 3rd parties can provide Template-Modification XL files for existing hacks.
Hack authors can also export standard template modification instructions as
textfiles to package them with their hacks, which allows users that do not
have TMS to also install them
This hack will change your live! I promise!

Maybe it is a little hard at first to understand how it works, but I promise, you wont want to miss this mod in a short while!

Just wanted to point this out

And now, go install it

Best regards and happy hacking

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Old 07-31-2007, 06:19 PM
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For those who want to remove the copyright line:

Contact Andreas. Can't say for sure but as far as I know the fee is about 10-20€ per domain / script instance...

BTW Great tool
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Old 07-31-2007, 07:26 PM
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I'll have to check this out

Thanks
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Old 07-31-2007, 07:41 PM
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What I forgot to mention.

I suspect that most of you have modified templates already.

What you need to do is

create a template modification for every modification you did in your templates.
And when you are done with a template, revert it to its original.

The best way to do this is not to replace the whole original template with the modified one but instead make a separate modification for every "search" -> "replace".

This is MUCH work when first switching to TMS, but after you are done you wont have much work at all anymore.

You need to make all modifications for the MASTER Style templates.
These are only visible if you have turned debug mode on.

I suggest you get this product: Activate the Debug mode by ACP

Be careful to not change any MASTER Style template itself unless you are absolutly know what you are doing!!!

Reverting your normal style templates (not the MASTER!) to their original version is the key for using the full potential of TMS!

Because then after every upgrade you only have to check which of your TMS modifications don't work anymore and fix the replace code with the changed code from the newest template version.

To keep your TMS modifications sorted, sort them to their corresponding product.
This way you can also export a product and all TMS modifications will be exported with it.
So next time you install it you don't need to do the modifications again.

It is as easy as 1 2 3

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Old 08-01-2007, 06:51 AM
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Hi Starbug,

I second your recommendation. I run TMS now since Version 0.0.3 Beta and it makes updating of vB significantly easier and quicker. Even if you plan to edit your templates it is very easily done with TMS. It is absolutely stable and is really a great enhancement to vB. !
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:10 AM
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Hi,

as a Member of Beta-Testing for Andreas I use this Hack a while an can tell you, that it is really an improvement for every Admin!

The first Installation and configuring with entering the Changes in the System may take a piece of time. But after that, the work for un upgrade melts down. I used for my last Update about 15 Minutes. And I use two Styles with many enhancements!

Some vBSEO TMS XML Files also exist.

Juts test it out, it is complex, but very useful!
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Old 08-01-2007, 07:07 PM
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How do you do if you have several styles?
Do you put the entire style(s) in TMS so all changes always only relate to MASTER or do you repeat the changes for each style(s).

The problem I currently is facing is that the style also has to be updated when vB updates.
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Old 08-02-2007, 02:13 AM
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No, styles are set up normaly.
But if you have template modifications like for hacks, you only need to do them once, and they are applied to all your styles via tms.
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Old 08-02-2007, 05:51 AM
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This looks awesome!

Any good for 3.5.4 upgrade to 3.6.X ...'cos I'm dreading it!!
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Old 08-02-2007, 09:25 AM
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I would do the upgrade, then install the tms and then move every template modification for any hack you have installed into the tms
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:54 AM
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I would do the upgrade, then install the tms and then move every template modification for any hack you have installed into the tms
Thanks!

When you say move every template modification for any hack you have installed - could you explain that in a bit more detail please?
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Old 08-02-2007, 01:15 PM
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The best way is to install the tms in a test forum and play with it
learn how it works before you upgrade.

ask in the TMS thread for support if you don't know how it works.

the tms basically adds your modifications (that you put into the tms) on the fly into the original templates when a website is viewed.
The modifications are not stored in the templates itself, they are stored in the tms
like "find this" -> "replace/add under/add above this" and all that on the fly.
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:39 PM
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For those savvy enough, the same results can be accomplished by using ereg_replace (or str_replace if you're scare of regex) within the parse_templates hook.

I've never been a big fan of these proprietary hack systems, as they inevitably become phased out and/or unsupported. More often sooner than later.
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Old 08-06-2007, 06:42 PM
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Feel free to do what you like but for me I would not want to live without it.

And because Andreas, Programmer for Jelsoft, is the coder, I would not fear the discontinuation of this hack.

But if you rather like to spend several hours re-adding template changes whenever you install a new style or upgrade to a new version, it's your choice
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:27 AM
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And because Andreas, Programmer for Jelsoft, is the coder, I would not fear the discontinuation of this hack.
Andreas does not work for Jelsoft.

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But if you rather like to spend several hours re-adding template changes whenever you install a new style or upgrade to a new version, it's your choice
As I said in the previous post, I can do the same thing with a single plugin that you're using an entire product for.

But, whatever.. you know what they say about opinions.
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