Understanding SEO for vBulletin

What is SEO - three parts to it

• getting the site mechanics correct = vBSEO
• getting the onpage optimization correct = your work, plus help from vBSEO
• getting links

Some facts:

• Google takes TIME to get all the new links updated into its system
• Google sometimes reverts back to a previous index, and so all your old url's come back
• there will be less pages in Google because of vBSEO, not more. You currently have many url's for single pages. vBSEO makes one more powerful url for that one page.
• you want the max number of SERP no. 1's, not the max number of pages in Google that rank 100th+
• you HAVE to have good Google Page Ranking into your site ie lots of links, or a smaller number of powerful links
• what is this misinformation about wanting to keep the archive version of the threads??? The archive version only ranks well because it has the best links to it, and until now, there has been so much duplicate content for the threads/different url's! The issue is that the archive is duplicate content with the main threads. So use the sitemap/archive to link to the actual threads, and onpage SEO the main threads better, and you will find the main threads will rank better than the archive pages ever did
• your sitemap pages need PR as they are the quickest route to the threads - so have a footer link to each main archive page. I have numbered links ie 1, 2, 3, 4 ... with each linking to a main archive page. This gets the max Google PR to the sitemap pages, therefore best PR for the threads.
• remember the formula for onpage SEO
  • keyphrase to the front of the title
  • keyphrase mentioned 2-3 times in the meta description of 150 characters for Google, then additional characters up to 200 for msn.
  • an <h1> tag which has a paragraph of "firstwords" immediately following
  • those "firstwords" having the same formula of the meta description with the repetition of the keyphrase, but can be a bit looser, can have other unique phrases in there that you are targetting for that page.
  • dont have "welcome guest" type phrases above the <h1> and firstwords - as these detract from what you want Google to know about the page. If you want a guest paragraph, have it below the above firstwords formula

The above are the basics of the work I contract to do with sites. While it is seemingly basic, many find it hard. Reread through the above a few times and apply to your sites. It has amazing results.

here is an extended explanation

vBulletin-Search Engine Optimize vBulletin-top hack

I totally agree with the archive, it should be a simple sitemap not a place with duplicate content! And even if Google doesn't see it as duplicate content, a sitemap is still better.

Maybe another important tip: keep the number of links on every page as low as possible. This will help spread a higher PR on each link.

If your archive is already heavily indexed, and it's bringing you good income, I see no reason to change it.

I do use mine as a sitemap, only because I've never had the archive turned on in the past, so there was no loss for me.

To get many pages indexed, high PR is still required. PR basically decide how many pages you will get indexed, but PR dont really decide what ranking position you will get, for that is a lot of other factors.

Just my guess from what I have seen, an old website still do better in SERPs than newer websites. So a good old history of many years give more weight than a new website with high PR.

VBSEO is great to make those pages indexed rank better, user friendly URLs and so on but you still need high PR to get as many page as possible indexed.

hmm this is the best article in vbseo.com i read so far, simple and easy to understanding


dear t2dman do you read google-secrets.com ebook? because your methods similiar to they methods, specially because your thread rank top 10 in google for pharse "vbulletin"


please see in my signature below, i want my site rank top 10 in google for pharse "indonesia" too



hmm your post writen about 12-15-2005, its mean its need a few month to google to decide "vbulletin" is keyword for that thread from link in your signature