whats the difference & do i need this?

what exactly is the difference between these two? YABBSEO[vB] Lite - Another Better SEO Module for vB 3.8.x - vBulletin.org Forum

my site gets between 5-10 k unique visitors a month, do i need something that seems so extravagant?

Hi Ice,

Yes, you need vBSEO... if you want your traffic to grow. If you are getting 5-10k visitors per month, you're in a great position to see that increase significant with vBSEO.

FYI - If you do not plan to run vBSEO, then please do not install any of the free hacks. You cannot risk something as vital as SEO for your site to anything other than vBSEO, a professional, fully supported solution, by a team that lives and breaths this stuff 24/7.

All of the fly by night hacks we have seen have significant issues.

If you want to get maxed out, please start with your vBSEO install, and then open your critique request so that we can give you further tips to improve:
http://www.vbseo.com/f45/

well joe, i asked specifically what ew the differences, can u give me some point by points ans not a sales pitch? also i have yet to see a price tag on this vbseo i guess im blind

Here are some that I could find...

YABBSEO :
(based on their own forum)

1. Won't rewrite archive URLs. Or at least it should block / redirect them to the actual thread url if they can't be optimized.

2. Simply placing a rel=nofollow won't prevent the showpost pages from being indexed. And due to a faulty rewriting of showpost.php pages, there are virtually infinite URLs using which one can access your showpost pages. Even stock vBulletin doesn't have this fault.

3. No native canonical meta tag support. Not required if a mod does it's rewriting well; but still good for redundancy.

4. No control panel. The last time I checked on vb-org, it says you have to edit a php file to do all the changes to the settings.

5. Doesn't support rewriting of blog, social groups & discussions, etc. (or at least I couldn't find it in the feature list or configuration options).

6. Doesn't dynamically optimise the meta description (& keyword) tags based upon the actual post content. It's still set to the inefficient [Thread Title + Forum Title] thing.

7. The content relevant forumdisplay.php URLs also have duplicate url issues. Example: a forum titled : 'xyz' is accessible via both : domain.com/xyz and domain.com/xyz/ ; which in the eyes of a search engine are two different URLs.

8. Forumhome is accessible and linked to Three different URLs that serve the same thing : /forum/ and /forum/forumindex.html & /forum/index.php which is always a bad thing.

9. Doesn't support Rewriting and/or 301 Redirection of the URLs generated by the mods which you have installed.

10. Rewriting of Thread tag pages not supported.

11. Doesn't fix the problem of [< Previous Thread | Next Thread >] URLs. So a showthread.php page is accessible via 3 unique URLs:

- showthread.php?t=Thread_ID
- showthread.php?goto=nextoldest&t=ID_of_Newer_Threa d
- showthread.php?goto=nextnewest&t=ID_of_Older_Threa d

It does have it rel=nofollow'ed, like in stock vBulletin. But as pointed out earlier, rel=nofollow attribute doesn't prevent a bot from 'indexing' that URL's content. All it does is prevent the flow of PR from one page to another.

12. Doesn't fix the issue of sending a '200 OK' header for a thread URL which doesn't exist at all. It should send a header of '404 Not Found' for all such URLs.

13. All member profile URLs have the same meta description. Member profiles are usually overlooked when optimizing because you don't hope to get any substantial traffic from them. Instead, properly optimized, they can be a source of traffic too; from people looking for other users by their identifying info like common usernames, IMs, etc.


vBSEO :

Fixes all the URL rewriting, duplication and SEO issues described till now. And in addition:

- Support of outbound click tracking via Google Analytics.

- Adsense section targeting. (to make sure the adverts served (if any) are relevant to the thread content).

- Logging the daily bot/spider activity (in conjunction with the Sitemap Generator addon, available for free)

- API/Functions available. So if you are a mod developer, it will help you optimise your pages without starting from scratch.

- Rel=Nofollow domain blacklist and whitelist. So you can control to which domains you want to pass the PR juice.

- Link Anonymiser for URLs posted in private forums. So the URL of the private forum and thread won't get disclosed in the referrer/traffic logs of other sites.

- Acronym expansion and linking. Example of Acronym expansion (hover over these words) : CP , vB, vBSEO

- Code compression / Cleanup : Removes comments and whitespace from the final HTML output; reducing the page's file size and hence lessening the download time.

- A dedicated support staff.

Plus tons of other fixed issues and features which I may have overlooked and/or don't know of.

yabbseo is to phpbb as vbseo is to vb. If you want a free solution that's 'good', go for yabbseo. IF you want the best SUPPORTED solution, which is why you bought vb in the first place over using phpbb, then vbseo is what you want to use.

10k a month can easily turn into 10k a DAY.

There is something you will learn, as I've leaned here. When you buy vBSeo you are not only buying a mod ... you are paying for a service no one can give you ...

Beside the script, here you have people that will teach you how to run a better forum, how to grow, how to manage a community, how to make money ... that's something you won't have with a free script.

I can tell you that in 6 months I have 2x more traffic that before vBSeo ... this makes all the difference

can anyone pls tell me how much does vbseo cost?

A license cost 149. You can see some details here: vBulletin SEO by vBSEO