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    This site and supplemental results

    Just did site: command in google.

    Thought id see the proof in the pudding.

    All the forums are ok but all the threads are supplemental.

    Why?

    Isnt this mod ment to stop all that?

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    The site: query has been known to be inaccurate

    For example site:Ford Mustang | Mustang Forums for Ford Mustang Enthusiasts doesnt return my threads in supps. No explanation as to why it happens for some sites and doesnt for others. All the matters is that your google referrals have increased

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    Yes it does.

    Up to page 70 is ok. So around 700 of your pages

    The other 23,400 are supps.

    This doesnt seem as good as i first thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hybrid View Post
    Yes it does.

    Up to page 70 is ok. So around 700 of your pages

    The other 23,400 are supps.

    This doesnt seem as good as i first thought.
    No the other ones lack the trailing slash /

    so they end t23546 instead of t23546/ and are 301 redirected. I recently added the trailing slash so Google has yet to purge them. On top of that the site tool still shows many pages that are now restricted via robots.txt

    Like I said, the site tool is known to be unreliable.

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    That does seem really odd -- when you search for site:www.vbseo.com it seems you get almost all member profile pages and no thread pages... I don't know what to make of it.

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    Me either. I stopped trying to understand the site: query a long time ago.

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    I haven't been a member here long. Maybe there was some change in the URL format not too long ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Island View Post
    Maybe there was some change in the URL format not too long ago?
    No, they haven't.
    Quote Originally Posted by BamaStangGuy View Post
    All the matters is that your google referrals have increased
    Yep. Perhaps the only way to really measure progress with any SEO campaign today!!

    Too bad the "site:site.com" query is no longer accurate with Google... and the "site:site.com keyword" one is an horror - It's really a shame cuz it was quite fun using it to figure how robust one's presence was on Google by including "vbseo" as a keyword, now it is a much more challenging task.

    For vbseo.com, try doing individual "site:" queries for each "virtual" forum /f1/, /f2/, etc. (reason I love hierarchically structured URLs , it allows you to do a better assessment regarding content indexed within "virtual" directories). Some samples below:

    site:vbseo.com/f2/ - 966 results
    site:vbseo.com/f4/ - 496 results
    site:vbseo.com/f55/ - 642 results

    Check out how bunked the "site:site.com keyword" query is. This site (a previously featured forum here @ vbseo.com) has thousands and thousands of well indexed pages that do include the keyword "vbseo" in them, yet it shows only 260 results at present for the query site:linuxforums.org/forums/ vbseo. A simple subforum site query shows how wrong that number is. Evidently, those 14,300 pages include the keyword "vbseo" in them.

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    The point im trying to make is you can have a million pages in googles index but if they are all supplemental than they wont yeild any decent traffic.

    Some of those examples above show 1,000s of indexed pages but only 20-30% in the main index/results pages.

    The site: command may be ropey but in my experience it gives a very good guide as to how google recognises your site

    Why is VBSEO generating duplicate content pages, isnt it ment to stop this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Muriente View Post

    site:vbseo.com/f2/ - 966 results
    site:vbseo.com/f4/ - 496 results
    site:vbseo.com/f55/ - 642 results

    Of which roughly 60% are in the supplemental index.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hybrid View Post
    The point im trying to make is you can have a million pages in googles index but if they are all supplemental than they wont yeild any decent traffic.

    Some of those examples above show 1,000s of indexed pages but only 20-30% in the main index/results pages.

    The site: command may be ropey but in my experience it gives a very good guide as to how google recognises your site

    Why is VBSEO generating duplicate content pages, isnt it ment to stop this.
    Please point out where duplicate content is on here?

    Like I have said already in here the site: query is not reliable. I don't know what else to tell you If you want to believe that VBSEO produces duplicate content then that's fine. Anyone can see that it removes it over a default vBulletin install. No showpost page, no archive threads, no printthread, etc etc.

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    I'd just like to point out that I have no Supps now. All the way to page 1000
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    Impressive Bama!

    This adds to my point tho' if the site: command was unreliable than why does it work for you and not others.

    Looks pretty reliable to me, Google obviously likes your site but doesnt this one. Would just be nice to know why.

    On another note:

    How do you get to page 1000? In site: command.

    Google always stops me after a few pages and says its detected a script and i should remove spyware lol.

    Thanks.

    Dave.

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    I made it to 962 before my first supplemental on one site, 600 on another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hybrid View Post
    Impressive Bama!

    This adds to my point tho' if the site: command was unreliable than why does it work for you and not others.

    Looks pretty reliable to me, Google obviously likes your site but doesnt this one. Would just be nice to know why.

    On another note:

    How do you get to page 1000? In site: command.

    Google always stops me after a few pages and says its detected a script and i should remove spyware lol.

    Thanks.

    Dave.
    I still think it is unreliable. This site has more incoming backlinks than I do I am sure yet is in supplementals? The only thing I have done different is be a little more aggressive in my robots.txt and completely remove the archive. So whether or not it is accurate no one knows.

    I have found something that I think could be causing it though. Going to PM Juan

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