Any good tips for uping the revenue?

Seeing as a load of you guys seem to be on the ball with Adsense optimisation, thought it would be worth asking for a bit of help.

My site has around 27,000 visits a day (7000 unique) and 120,000 page views - what kind of Adsense revenue should I be expecting from this? Is $30 a day possible?

I currently have a leaderboard under the first and last posts (I tried removing the last post one, but the amount dropped dramatically) however I seem to be averaging around $11-$13 a day, unfortunately not covering the server's costs (not even half way )

Anyone have any useful tips for me to help me reach my goal?

with 7k uniques / day you can make about ~$70/day, although depends on a lot of stuff. Maybe if you'd give us your board url we could give you more info.

What is your monthly server cost?

Ah forgot the address (though it's in my profile ) - fiatforum.com

Server costs are about $700 a month, but they host other sites and there is no leeway on reducing them.

So really hoping Adsense can be optimised in someway (without deteriorating the user experience - ie no popups etc) to bring in some extra cash!

Yeah just saw it in your profile. Well i think you should place some blocks on top that would raise your ctr.

Also try to exclude the mfa sites from your ads ( AdsBlackList.com - An initiative by Vision i.T Services ), that will raise your cpc.

A 336x280 ad under your random classifieds would probably do very well. If you don't have any CPM networks, I would probably put an affiliate ad beside it.

I would have that on forumdisplay and showthread at least.

If you put it on the forumhome, I would remove that welcome block.

In all honesty, you should be making $200-500 a day.
Your site is doing about 7x what my site does on everything but uniques, and i pull in at minimum $70 every day, and some days much more than that.

I never had luck with ads under the posts or at the end.

the best place has been under the nav bar.

Wow ... really!

I really don't like those 336x280 blocks though, just so big and ugly and require a whole scroll just to get past them, or do you think these are the only serious ways to get money?

I could move my paid advertisers banner back into the "usual" header spot, move the login box down into the navbits bar and then have the current banner spot available where i could put a leaderboard style (without it moving anything out of place)

Or is this not going to be worth it? (as much as it would be good to make money, i dont think my users woudl appreciate having to scroll down so much - and it makes everything look nasty ...)

I use 336x280 ads under my navbar. I only run one adsense ad on the entire forum and so far today I have made $34.00+ on about 1400-1500 uniques. The block ads are the only way I have found to have a great CTR without tricking your users.

Ok - so it looks like to get serious I gotta do the blocks.

Do you have any distinction between registered and non?

For example, if i was to go with my above post of moving the banner block to the top and reformatting the navbits to go right under the links.

Now for guests have 1 of the 336 x 280 with a random 2x2 of my classifieds block next to it.
Registered have a single leaderboard
Donated nothing.

Is this likely to be a decent strategy do you think, or more a case of try it and see what works?

It's exactly what I do.

First attachment is guests second attachment is a regular non supporting member. I don't show Adsense to member though.

Cool - almost worked it all out now.

One more question, do you notice many click throughs from the main page?

I was thinking to just Adsense the Show Thread and Forum Display pages?

I have it all on one channel. Its easier to just add it to the navbar template haha.

Well - it's done

Let's see how this fares - you guys have given me a lot of faith .. just hope it comes off!

Might put the "After Last Post" on for guests after a few days, as now there is nothing at the bottom when they end a thread (so no exit point) - but we'll see.

Thanks again!

For what its worth I don't use image ads in adsense, just Text